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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 88 points 1 week ago

Dr Oetker is european; and it isn't Nestlรจ

so that's two points it has over Wagner :)

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 69 points 1 week ago

Wagner also committed war crimes in Ukraine. Or so I've heard.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, you're thinking of the Wagner Group, a Russian paramilitary organisation.

This is Wagner, the antisemitic 19th century German composer.

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No no, this is Wagner, the private liberal arts college on Staten Island. Those damn liberals with their New York based Hawaiian pizza.

[-] el_bhm@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Can he just go back to music? Ukraine and pizza is a bit too much for my liking.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago

I believe that's a different Wagner Group. Well I hope...

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 10 points 1 week ago

After they tried to do a coup, they had to diversify. Making pizzas is less likely to cause falling from a window or mistake novichok for sugar.

[-] Novocirab@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

True, though only as long as one doesn't sell the specimens from the meme in Italy.

[-] calisti 13 points 1 week ago

Angry upvote

[-] staz2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dr Oerker was founded by a nazi. Probably still controlled and owned by nazis. Check Wikipedia for their family history.

Edit: not all German companies, this one specifically, check my answer below for details. Also some companies supported and profited from the nazi regime but aren't affiliated anymore. They changed ownership, renounced their past and the ideology and eventually made reparations. I don't believe this is the case with Dr Oetker but I would be happy to be proven wrong.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

Everything german is Nazi from the early 1900 got it.

Sod off.

[-] staz2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Definitely not, lot of good German companies. on my phone so didn't make a detailed essay, which is why I encouraged you to read Wikipedia.

For those who can't be bothered:

During the 1930s and 1940s, Rudolf-August Oetker was an active member of the Waffen-SS of the Third Reich. The company supported the war effort by providing pudding mixes and munitions to German troops. The business used slave labour in some of its facilities. A bronze bust of Richard Kaselowsky still sits within the company headquarters in Bielefeld. Kaselowsky was killed during an air raid on Bielefeld in 1944.[2] The Oetker Family is among those German families, who have profited most from their close relations to the Nazi regime.[3]

I have to correct the original founder might not be a nazi. His grand son defined was.

The company is still privately held by the same family, and controlled

Richard Oetker, August Oetker's brother, took over as CEO in 2010.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Oetke

Edit: before someone try to paint me as some anti German strawman. I like Germany, and went there multiple time, for works, vacation and the ccc congresses and camps And it actually pained me to learn the company history because I actually liked their pizza.

[-] Owlboi@lemm.ee 53 points 1 week ago

as an avid frozen pizza enjoyer, both of these suck, taste wise

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[-] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Bwahhh frozen pizza. My order of pizzas is:

  1. Make my own if I have time
  2. Order some from good local Pizzeria
  3. Die of starvation
  4. Frozen pizza
[-] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Explains your lack of response to my Frozen Pizza Pandemonium Party invite.

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[-] Wrongdoer1@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We were feeling more united than ever is this community but you decided to start a fight with our Italian friends? Why???

[-] Novocirab@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago
[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I don't think I've ever even seen the top one.

[-] zymagoras777@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Oetker is also shit but less evil, I guess?

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 6 points 1 week ago

I love the Ristorante line of their pizzas. Sadly the store I usually buy stuff from no longer sells my favourite one.

[-] pulpy@feddit.it 5 points 1 week ago

Vive l'Italie? Is this French?

[-] mimavox@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

They all taste like crap though.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

"Hey siri, give me a list of all the terrorist and militant groups that have killed more innocent people and destabilized more countries in a fragile position than Nestle willingly has purely in the pursuit of more profit?"

[-] Cyber@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Came here to suggest an alternative: Crosta & Mollica

As far as I can tell they're even from Italy.

We kinda get the best of both worlds: we just get the bases and make what we want so the speed of a ready made pizza, but the flavours of home made.

But still, NO PINEAPPLE !!

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

But still, NO PINEAPPLE !!

You're one of those sociopaths that puts kiwi on your pizza aren't you?!

[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago
[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Fuck..... that's probably actually really good.....sigh

[-] Flisty@mstdn.social 3 points 1 week ago

@Sturgist @IsoKiero my Swedish friend introduced me to Flying Jacob and that stuff is so wrong and yet so right. What is it with Swedes and weird banana recipes

Also, a vote here for Goodfellas pizza (Birdseye). Very average but better than Dr Oetker by a country mile and the gluten free one is pretty decent

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[-] Cyber@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Kiwis, no... Australians... maybe (jk)

No, I'm a firm believer in meat and spice on a pizza: 'nduja, jalepeรฑos and chorizo are my usual

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Fair enough pal, that sounds exactly like my standard zza...except I do actually put pineapple on mine. Instead of chunks I use pulped, strain as much juice out as I can manage, and lightly sprinkle some on. And some baby spinach under the cheese.....

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Yes pineapple, in moderation.

The meme is funny, but also quite silly. Contrasting savory and sweet tastes is a staple of Italian cuisine.

[-] camelbeard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

My supermarket sells these and they are superior to all other frozen pizzas I had.

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[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Those Big City pizzas taste like cardboard anyway.

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[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have a godly pizza recipe

Ingredients for the dough:  

400 g flour (type 500 or 00)  
280 ml water  
2 tablespoons olive oil  
1 teaspoon salt  
8 g fresh yeast  

DOUGH PREPARATION  

Pizza dough preparation process:  

Mix water, which should be at room temperature, with olive oil. Add salt and crumble the yeast. Stir to dissolve the yeast and let stand for about 10 minutes.
Pour the mixture into a bowl with flour and knead for about 20 minutes to obtain a soft, smooth and elastic dough.  

If necessary, you can add a little more water or flour while kneading.  

Shape the kneaded dough into a smooth loaf. Place it in a floured bowl and cover well so that it does not dry out during the rising process.  

First, let the dough rise for one hour at room temperature, then transfer it to the refrigerator for 48 hours.  

After 48 hours, remove it from the refrigerator and let it rise for one hour at room temperature.
Then take the dough out of the bowl and divide it into two loaves, if desired, for two pizzas. Brush the tops of the loaves with olive oil, cover with clear plastic wrap and let rise for another hour.  

Stretch the risen dough with your hands, forming a circle with your palms, from the center to the edge. To make it easier, you can also oil your hands a little.
Finally, use your fingers to form a few millimeters thick edge.  
 
Note: The dough can also rise overnight or for 24 hours.  

Bake on 270ยฐC preferably on a pizza stone if you have one.

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[-] Novocirab@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

By the way: For making really good pizza oneself, this video (German, 27 minutes) looked to me like the guy gives really solid instructions. (I haven't tried it though, and it's a multi-day project.)

[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

multi-day project

Hmm, I'm hungry

[-] Comtief@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I learned from my wife to make pizza myself, just get the powder and make the dough from it and so on.. Much tastier

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