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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 88 points 5 days ago

Dr Oetker is european; and it isn't Nestlรจ

so that's two points it has over Wagner :)

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 69 points 5 days ago

Wagner also committed war crimes in Ukraine. Or so I've heard.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No, you're thinking of the Wagner Group, a Russian paramilitary organisation.

This is Wagner, the antisemitic 19th century German composer.

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No no, this is Wagner, the private liberal arts college on Staten Island. Those damn liberals with their New York based Hawaiian pizza.

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[-] calisti 13 points 5 days ago

Angry upvote

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 16 points 5 days ago

I believe that's a different Wagner Group. Well I hope...

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 10 points 5 days ago

After they tried to do a coup, they had to diversify. Making pizzas is less likely to cause falling from a window or mistake novichok for sugar.

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[-] staz2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Dr Oerker was founded by a nazi. Probably still controlled and owned by nazis. Check Wikipedia for their family history.

Edit: not all German companies, this one specifically, check my answer below for details. Also some companies supported and profited from the nazi regime but aren't affiliated anymore. They changed ownership, renounced their past and the ideology and eventually made reparations. I don't believe this is the case with Dr Oetker but I would be happy to be proven wrong.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 6 points 5 days ago

Everything german is Nazi from the early 1900 got it.

Sod off.

[-] staz2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Definitely not, lot of good German companies. on my phone so didn't make a detailed essay, which is why I encouraged you to read Wikipedia.

For those who can't be bothered:

During the 1930s and 1940s, Rudolf-August Oetker was an active member of the Waffen-SS of the Third Reich. The company supported the war effort by providing pudding mixes and munitions to German troops. The business used slave labour in some of its facilities. A bronze bust of Richard Kaselowsky still sits within the company headquarters in Bielefeld. Kaselowsky was killed during an air raid on Bielefeld in 1944.[2] The Oetker Family is among those German families, who have profited most from their close relations to the Nazi regime.[3]

I have to correct the original founder might not be a nazi. His grand son defined was.

The company is still privately held by the same family, and controlled

Richard Oetker, August Oetker's brother, took over as CEO in 2010.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Oetke

Edit: before someone try to paint me as some anti German strawman. I like Germany, and went there multiple time, for works, vacation and the ccc congresses and camps And it actually pained me to learn the company history because I actually liked their pizza.

[-] Owlboi@lemm.ee 53 points 5 days ago

as an avid frozen pizza enjoyer, both of these suck, taste wise

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[-] zymagoras777@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

Oetker is also shit but less evil, I guess?

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago

"Hey siri, give me a list of all the terrorist and militant groups that have killed more innocent people and destabilized more countries in a fragile position than Nestle willingly has purely in the pursuit of more profit?"

[-] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Bwahhh frozen pizza. My order of pizzas is:

  1. Make my own if I have time
  2. Order some from good local Pizzeria
  3. Die of starvation
  4. Frozen pizza
[-] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago

Explains your lack of response to my Frozen Pizza Pandemonium Party invite.

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[-] Wrongdoer1@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

We were feeling more united than ever is this community but you decided to start a fight with our Italian friends? Why???

[-] Novocirab@feddit.org 8 points 5 days ago
[-] pulpy@feddit.it 5 points 5 days ago

Vive l'Italie? Is this French?

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I have a godly pizza recipe

Ingredients for the dough:  

400 g flour (type 500 or 00)  
280 ml water  
2 tablespoons olive oil  
1 teaspoon salt  
8 g fresh yeast  

DOUGH PREPARATION  

Pizza dough preparation process:  

Mix water, which should be at room temperature, with olive oil. Add salt and crumble the yeast. Stir to dissolve the yeast and let stand for about 10 minutes.
Pour the mixture into a bowl with flour and knead for about 20 minutes to obtain a soft, smooth and elastic dough.  

If necessary, you can add a little more water or flour while kneading.  

Shape the kneaded dough into a smooth loaf. Place it in a floured bowl and cover well so that it does not dry out during the rising process.  

First, let the dough rise for one hour at room temperature, then transfer it to the refrigerator for 48 hours.  

After 48 hours, remove it from the refrigerator and let it rise for one hour at room temperature.
Then take the dough out of the bowl and divide it into two loaves, if desired, for two pizzas. Brush the tops of the loaves with olive oil, cover with clear plastic wrap and let rise for another hour.  

Stretch the risen dough with your hands, forming a circle with your palms, from the center to the edge. To make it easier, you can also oil your hands a little.
Finally, use your fingers to form a few millimeters thick edge.  
 
Note: The dough can also rise overnight or for 24 hours.  

Bake on 270ยฐC preferably on a pizza stone if you have one.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

I mean no one's replacing Dr oetker frozen pizzas with home made, the whole point of them is they're pretty cheap and you can throw them in the oven for a quick meal. Not saying you shouldn't make home made pizzas, these frozen ones are not good and also not very healthy, but I don't think this is one of those things you can directly replace with a home made version, the home made you'll make for a proper dinner or something. Maybe replace the frozen pizzas with something else that's equally quick/easy but more home made though.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

I mean, i do. It's quickly made if you buy the dough.

Then again, since i live alone, i started to assess meals by their nutritional value vs. calories, since you can only eat so much a day and i want to lose weight. It's second nature now and that might not be typical.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm right there with you, least year I lost 35kg by counting calories, and now I'm maintaining and working out, so while I don't count anymore I'm still following the principles I learned thought that and these premade pizzas are off the menu.... I'm just being realistic about how these frozen pizzas are used by folks who don't do that (they used to be my favourite quick lunch options in my pre-diet life). Your recipe included making the dough which is what really pushed it out of the realm of realistic.

[-] camelbeard@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

My goto frozen pizza "hack", just get the cheapest most basic pizza margherita, skip known brands and go for the housebrand/offbrand.

Buy some quality toppings and add them, like a spicey salami, aged cheese, etc.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Those Big City pizzas taste like cardboard anyway.

[-] Cyber@feddit.uk 4 points 5 days ago

Came here to suggest an alternative: Crosta & Mollica

As far as I can tell they're even from Italy.

We kinda get the best of both worlds: we just get the bases and make what we want so the speed of a ready made pizza, but the flavours of home made.

But still, NO PINEAPPLE !!

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

But still, NO PINEAPPLE !!

You're one of those sociopaths that puts kiwi on your pizza aren't you?!

[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago
[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Fuck..... that's probably actually really good.....sigh

[-] Flisty@mstdn.social 3 points 4 days ago

@Sturgist @IsoKiero my Swedish friend introduced me to Flying Jacob and that stuff is so wrong and yet so right. What is it with Swedes and weird banana recipes

Also, a vote here for Goodfellas pizza (Birdseye). Very average but better than Dr Oetker by a country mile and the gluten free one is pretty decent

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

The fuck is a Flying Jacob?!

[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago

I honestly have no idea. From wikipedia:

Flying Jacob Swedish casserole composed of chicken, whipping cream, chili sauce, bananas, roasted peanuts, bacon and Italian salad seasoning, which is a peculiar seasoning blend available only in Sweden. The dish is baked in an oven and is usually served with rice and a salad.

That didn't help much on understanding it. And those are just your regular banans, not the kind you can get from chinese restaurant or something like that.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Plantains? But smaller, bit more bitter, absolutely banging in a Jamaican curry? Or fried....fuck....now I'm hungry.....

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[-] Flisty@mstdn.social 2 points 4 days ago

@Sturgist it is so, so wrong. I've only had it once and I remember it being confusingly good https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying/_Jacob I sort of liken it to weird American recipes like marshmallows and sweet potato (which I've tasted and did *not* like, so who knows)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying/_Jacob

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

That sounds hideous.

One thing I grew up eating, and I know a few other people who did as well, we all seem to be from North American families of Scottish descent, but have been in NA for the Great Depression....

Peanut butter and mayo sandwiches. I know it sounds disgusting, but it is legitimately good. Big glass of milk of the side.

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[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Yes pineapple, in moderation.

The meme is funny, but also quite silly. Contrasting savory and sweet tastes is a staple of Italian cuisine.

[-] camelbeard@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

My supermarket sells these and they are superior to all other frozen pizzas I had.

[-] Rogue@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The Crosta & Mollica Stromboli has ruined all other pizza for me. It's infinitely superior to everything except perhaps a genuine Italian fresh from the pizza oven.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I don't think I've ever even seen the top one.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 6 points 5 days ago

I love the Ristorante line of their pizzas. Sadly the store I usually buy stuff from no longer sells my favourite one.

[-] mimavox@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

They all taste like crap though.

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