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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I will never know what it is like to be in pre-Reagan America and for that alone that man should burn in hell waiting for heaven to trickle down.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 5 points 4 hours ago

Not to glorify mental institutions, which are often vehicles of state oppression and state violence.

Having both been homeless and in a psych ward, I preferred being homeless (granted I could sleep in public transit).

[-] echinacea@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."  - CIA Director William J. Casey to President Ronald Reagan, in 1981

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 46 points 23 hours ago

A lot of younger people simply don't know that the age we all consider the golden age of middle class America (40s-70s) was so because we TAXED THE FUCK OUT OF THE WEALTHY. As we should.

If we do not return to doing so, our quality of life is going to continue to decline indefinitely.

TAX. THE. FUCKING. RICH.

DON'T VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT DOESN'T RUN ON TAXING THE RICH.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 9 points 18 hours ago

Conversely, I think most of the county would rabidly support anyone who ran on that platform... Even most Trump voters

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 18 hours ago

Not even the Democrats could do this with a Democrat controlled Congress and presidency

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

The democrats are cowards, the republicans are evil. If there ever is another proper election in the US, vote independent.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 hours ago

it worked for mexico almost 10 years ago.

that is, until we regime change them.... again.

[-] tfm@europe.pub 6 points 8 hours ago

~~could~~ want

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Trump is just the Result of Reagan's transformation of American politics and culture to greed first and only.

Trump is a vulture picking this nation's corpse clean. Ronald Reagan and Jack Welch killed us half a century ago.

[-] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago
[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Almost every problem america has to date, you could blame on Reagan.

And you would be right far, far, faaaar more often than you'd be wrong.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago

Reagan, Nixon, or Dubya. You bet on Reagan for safety, Dubya if it sounds more recent, Nixon is a dark horse to bet on who pays big whenever you get it right.

[-] Qwazpoi@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

This actually works incredibly poorly or very well depending on your opinion if you just applied it to random problems in the US that are like micro issues.

Toilet clogged? Reagan's fault

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[-] leadore@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago

I was here but barely too young to vote at the time (not that it mattered since he had so many people enthralled like trump has done). No, I will never forget how he (along with some others like Newt Gingrich) ruined everything, so just as I was getting started in adult life, things were already starting to go to hell and it hasn't stopped since.

Reagan really was the beginning of the end for this country, and though a couple times it looked like we might, we were never able to turn things around. And now here we are, experiencing the culmination of his work of turning America into a kleptocratic oligarchy.

[-] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Did anyone else know that they recently made a film about this fucking filth?

They were obviously trying way too hard to control the narrative of this fucking piece of shit, but to also spark some kind of patriotism in all those old fucks who fell for reagan's bullshit lies, and now trump's bullshit lies.

I almost wanted to go and rip their little signs they had for this movie straight out of the ground. Ugh. Disgusting.

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Looking at the IMDb listing, is this shedding Reagan in a good light?

Or is it a documentary on how he completely fucked up?

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 37 points 1 day ago

“National debt” obscures the practical consequence. National debt is just money that has been added into the economy but not taxed back out.

It’s not necessarily bad to ramp up spending, if that new money has somewhere healthy to go. (Mega projects like Medicare For All or the Green New Deal would be prime candidates.)

So where did it go?

Well, take a look at Reagan’s reign from 81-89…

There’s the problem.

[-] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

...and this chart stops at 2012

[-] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

precisely. the distribution of wealth is a more important indicator of economic health than simply looking at the national debt or total tax revenues. imo we need to increase taxes on the ultra rich, not because we need to reduce the deficit but because taxes prevent the obscene accumulation of wealth (and the resulting regulatory capture epitomized by modern American oligarchy).

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 134 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The deinstitutionalization and movement to prison was something that began long before Reagan. Really goes back to the end of ww2 and Kennedy. though reagan definitely accelerated it by a great deal by decreasing budgets substantially and increasing incarceration rates significantly

Reagan was a monster though. What a great day it was when he died

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[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

And he sold those missiles because Congress had made it illegal to fund rape/murder squads in Nicaragua.

The money was off the books and then sent to the death squads killing innocent farmers.

Unlike Nixon, Congress was not willing to impeach, so Regan denied everything and only a few staffers were prosecuted.

Bush Sr pardoned them.

Republicans: not even once.

[-] smayonak@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

They also were smuggling Crack into the states to fund the contras (who are terrorists)

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

On one hand, it does make sense to lower taxes if taxes are notably harming the economy or harming economic recovery, and under Reagan we DID have a long economic boom. Dropping taxes on the rich by 40% was likely unnecessary, as even ~20% would have been enough for a stable recovery.

The flip side to that is that it installed in Republicans the idea that taxes go down == economy go up, which is nowhere near the truth (as shown by the Kansas Experiment ) and is one of (IMO) the three major shifts in the GOP that has turned them into the absolute shitters they are today. The others FWIW are Gingrich's Contract with America, or more particularly the idea he presented to the GOP that they can never let the DNC have a win even if it would benefit the GOP, and the Southern Strategy.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Trickle down economics, contract with America, and the southern strategy. The new unholy trinity.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

He really didn't though, it was fake and funded through over a trillion dollars in national debt ...

I'm pretty sure he's the president that also started using money ear marked for social security for the general fund. SS is fully funded through Miss 2030, the Republicans want to get rid of it to hide the fact they stole the money for other shit ..

[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 58 points 1 day ago

He was terrible, and perhaps worse: he was so popular. He got two terms, then his vice president got a term. So popular it seemed to be (to me) that he was the reason we ultimately got stuck with the "Third Way" democrats, which is when the working class was finally completely abandoned.

He really screwed us all

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

His administration was when the republicans really started running with the idea of fucking with people's minds. "Morning in America" turned a shitload of former Democrats into republican voters who voted themselves and their children into a shithole they'd never get out of.

See also; "The Southern Strategy"

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[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Reagan broke the unions. The group that literally funded labor and the Democrats for decades upon decades. Third way Democrats arose out of necessity from the fall of the unions. They didn't abandon the unions anymore than the unions abandoned them. The unions became unable to fund them like they used to. And Democrats now be holding to corporate donors became unable to support humans like they used to.

[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes and no, I'd say on that. Reagan really worked against unions, I agree. And democrats are always worried about how they are going to get paid. But there was a real turn toward "market solutions" for problems that had traditionally been addressed by government during this period, and I don't believe it was entirely due to corporate bribes or financing. When Bill and Hillary attempted to change healthcare with corporate partners, I think it was more from their genuine belief that that was a new, better way forward. They were wrong, and I am sure that they benefited in terms of contributions, but I think it came as much out of their beliefs about the unpopularity of former democrats and the perception of economic malaise in places like England as it did from union weakness. The democrats could have helped rebuild the unions. They did not (and here I think you are right, because as time went on they really began to be paid well to forget the unions)

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It was due to the success of fascist propaganda and Reagan's overwhelming win. It rattled Democrats badly. Causing them to change their tac a bit. That and labor abandoning Democrats thinking they would teach them a lesson as well. It was a culmination of really bad choices that people still make to this day. Because they haven't learned.

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[-] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 38 points 1 day ago

Don't forget his campaign for governor led to the massive student loan issues we have today. College was just starting to be accessible to everyone that wasn't a white man, and they just couldn't have that!

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

thank him for no-brakes neoliberalism. i wish this piece of shit had only ruined his own shitty country but instead we were forced into his insane bullshit too.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

And don't forget ending the fairness doctrine, one of the contributions to the polarization of US politics.

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The homelessness crisis is not about mental health, it is about housing affordability. This also plays into societal biases against the mentally ill.

[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Yes, however there are many people who are homeless because they are unable to "properly" function in society due to untreated mental illnesses, part of Reagan's budget cuts reduced public health funding, shuttering public mental health facilities. Granted, some had horrendous conditions which has a lasting reputation for "Insane asylums".

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The 13th amendment created the legal groundwork for transforming a free people into a nation of de facto chattel slaves. Reagan accelerated this process massively.

Mental patients 🖐️ (⁠눈⁠‸⁠눈⁠)

"Prisoners with jobs" 👈 (⁠♡⁠ω⁠♡⁠ ⁠)

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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago

In (very) broad strokes, the US basic current modern collapse timeline is like: Nixon --> Regan --> Fairness Doctrine --> Glass-Steagall --> Patriot Act --> bank bailout --> tea party to maga --> current fubar lyfe

goddamn fucking reagan

[-] PeripheralGhost@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Need to squeeze Citizens United in there

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[-] Shamber@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

How dare you talk like this about the republicans Jesus? And they are still selling less taxes one the 1% cause they create jobs 😅

[-] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Leeja Miller on Youtube has a great video about how shitty Reagan was. She also has REAGAN RUINED EVERYTHING t-shirts! https://youtu.be/l7dHvqA-WB4

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