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Summary

A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer who claimed they didn't have to follow the judge's oral order blocking deportations to El Salvador because it wasn't in writing.

Judge Boasberg questioned why the administration ignored his directive to return immigrants to the US. The DOJ lawyer repeatedly refused to provide information about the deportations, citing "national security concerns."

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order "since apparently my verbal orders don't seem to carry much weight."

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[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 hours ago

Show cause why I shouldn't throw your ass in the klink. That's what happens to the rest of us if we ignore a court order.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 7 points 2 hours ago

He can’t be charged with a crime while in office or for anything he does in office. So, that’s why.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

so arrest everyone in the department that did it. EVERYONE. secretary of [thing], and everyone who might have so much as seen the command moving down the chain.

that's what a law that wasn't just an excuse to punish poor people would do.

or just fucking arrest him anyway, fuck it, if laws don't mean things, laws don't mean things. that includes his special protection.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 4 points 1 hour ago

I don’t disagree with you, but I think we both know how this will play out. Get ready to hide in the attic.

yeah. fuck my life. taking bets on how long I last before they kill me. ill have betting tables up in the morning.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

Hmmm… what color are you? Could be a matter of months… (hopefully not)

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 52 minutes ago

I think I count as 'swarthy' and white depending on the century.

but also I'm visibly queer and very loud about lefty politics.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

Hmm. Do you live in a blue state? I hope so. You might be able to blend. Can you—is this the fucking 90s?—“butch up” for the gestapo long enough to slip away? I’m having flashbacks of the Midwest.

For me, I’m a man married to a man. I’m on a list. I’m somewhat nervous about that, but I’m white like milk an own a lot of polos and chinos, so I will have some warning before the shit hits me. Fingers crossed.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

butch up

well I have tits, so I'm not sure that would help.

I'm more worried about a neighbor reporting me.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 5 minutes ago

Oh, you’re fine. They love girl on girl. (Joke)

It’s always the fucking neighbors.

[-] pixelpure@lemm.ee 1 points 37 minutes ago

The more they let them act without any consequences for their actions shows us that the constitution means nothing nowadays. Throw him or the enablers in jail, but doing nothing means checks and balances are useless. I fear for the regular people. Power has gone to the fascists and oligarchs.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 35 minutes ago

...nowadays?

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 hours ago

And the "just following orders" folks?

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I’m in the guillotine crowd, so I say “everyone,” but I’m not holding my breath there will be any.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

So the second amendment is our only option?

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Unless you’ve got another option….

[-] witten@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

You guys are maybe being a little hasty... Many other members of the Trump administration can get forcibly hauled into court even if Trump has "immunity."

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Let me know when that happens.

[-] witten@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And let me know when you second amendment types actually do something. 👍

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 56 minutes ago

You mean the people who wish death on people who are absolutely destroying humanity? Or, gun people? Because, I don’t own a gun. 🤷‍♂️

[-] witten@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

Both. I just think the "oh well we must immediately escalate to bloodshed" people are only serving to worsen the situation because it skips over all the other legitimate ways we have of fighting back, like protest and the courts. Ways that a bigger portion of the populace is willing to participate in (currently). And right now we need everyone who's reasonable resisting in any way they can.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

I seriously hope you’re right. I’d rather not see a bunch of people die. But I haven’t seen anything at all to suggest the usual ways are gonna work, and by the time we realize that it will be too late (if it’s not already).

Give me hope, tell me something that is actually going to stop them and is likely to work.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So just to be clear, this is within the domain of “constitutional crisis” that the vast majority of Americans who graduated from high school will have certainly been taught about at some point. But precisely zero major news networks or newspapers are calling it as such.

Evidently a comically dismaying proportion of us unitedstatesians need to be told when our own fucking house is on fire. And even then, 30ish% of us will deny it as the flesh melts off their own bones.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 60 points 5 hours ago

He shouldn't be letting those attorneys leave the courtroom free men. Hold them in contempt and issue bench warrants for administration officials and anyone carrying out these illegal orders.

[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 41 points 5 hours ago

This is the only correct response, any other response means that the federal government does not in practice have checks and balances

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 28 points 4 hours ago

It also forces Trump's hand. Either publicly reveal, right now that he is an all-out dictator instead of slow-rolling it, or fold and lose any momentum he has.

If a violent revolution is needed to take him down, the sooner everyone knows about it, the better.

[-] bunnyjenkins@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

The same laws that make him President, are the same law in which we allow it

[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I believe they thought they could ignore the order because they could ignore the order.

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 46 points 7 hours ago

A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer

If this is the only consequence of having done it- I’d say they didn’t think they could, they knew they could.

Note Rubio saying they aren't going to stop, when explicitly told to by a judge. That's called sedition last I knew.

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

And if there’s no one willing to stop them, it may as well be legal.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 2 hours ago

people would be willing if they could ever get the message out.

[-] Zzyzx 69 points 9 hours ago

The US is in a constitutional crisis with situations like this, and so many people just don't seem to care or want to acknowledge that it's at that point.

[-] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I think the seeds for this were sown in the post 9/11 secret court system, in which the US govt authorized itself to break national and international law.

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