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Brown University Professor Deported Despite Valid Visa And Judge's Order (www.huffpost.com)

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Let me break this down:

Openly defying court orders multiple times= dictatorship Threatening to jail political opponents despite them being pardoned= dictatorship Deporting American citizens who have legal citizenship= dictatorship Can’t put it any simpler.

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 247 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is happening again and again: judges rule that deportations are illegal, then Trump's people just kidnap the victim and deport them anyway. A whole lot of people were just deported to a prison in a foreign country whose government has said they will never be released. They will be slave labor for a foreign country until they die, and there was no trial, no due process, no evidence presented for their being guilty of any crime. It's just the US government kidnapping people and trafficking them into slavery abroad, completely ignoring its own judicial system. The USA is already a dictatorship, and it only took a few weeks.

[-] LonstedBrowryBased@lemm.ee 40 points 4 months ago

It’s time for armed resistance

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If these unjust and illegal actions can't be stopped through elections, politicians or courts, it does seem the only ways to stop them would involve physically obstructing them.

[-] felsiq@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 months ago

Anyone have a good source on the illegal kidnappings and the prison that won’t release people? I’ve been trying not to follow US politics but goddamn clearly I need to when they’re up to this shit already

[-] geekgrrl0@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago

NPR, the source that floofloof linked above, is a pretty solid news source. The article linked discusses the mega-prison in El Salvador.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 115 points 4 months ago

Hey where was the motherfucker arguing they wouldnt deport legal people with me here? Huh? Where ya at?

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago

They literally don't care. All they want is to win an argument against leftists in the moment; they actually see it as a weakness to be beholden to facts.

They're playing a different "game" entirely, one where rhetoric is more important than reality.

[-] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

This point should be understood by all - they're programmed to get a dopamine hit in the moment by pissing you off.

They're not arguing in good faith and all the time you spend making rational statements is a waste. Nobody is keeping a scorecard that punishes them for losing an intellectual discussion.

The opposition to MAGA has to find a new path, because applying rational arguments in discussions ain't going to work.

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

This is why calling them weird was sort of effective. It's not a fact, it's an opinion. Now, I think it's a widely held opinion, but the point is it wasn't something they could argue with. It was sort of playing the game they've been playing.

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[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 63 points 4 months ago

If only we could have foreseen this and prevented it somehow

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago

BUt GeNoCiDe JoE!

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[-] BlitzFitz@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Constitutional crisis time! Who's ready to defend their rights and fight for democracy!

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 months ago

"I'll stand peacefully on a sidewalk holding up a sign to defend democracy, so long as no harm comes to me." - Americans

[-] BlitzFitz@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As an anti gun person my whole life, I am considering buying a gun to defend my rights as our 2nd amendment was designed to protect.

I think Democrats need to start forming or partnering with like like minded, armed groups, to help reinforce the importance and need for action. Then we have our support shown how we will defend our rights if actions are not taken.

I am not advocating for violence, but we cannot show up to a gun right with cardboard signs.

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[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

Most of America has work tomorrow, sorry.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Though the Trump administration did not initially detail their rationale for detaining Alawieh, Hilton Beckham, the assistant commissioner of public affairs for Customs and Border Protection, told HuffPost that "arriving aliens bear the burden of establishing admissibility to the United States.”

Which a valid visa is literally proof of, you ridiculously named fascist henchcritter! 🤦🤬

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[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 52 points 4 months ago

This is getting uglier. Ugh

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago

It could stop tomorrow if Americans had the courage.

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[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

I just want to know when and how the nightmare will end

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago

It will end in (threats of) vioIence. Either by the people being completely owned or taking a stand.

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[-] Shameless@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

Deporting doctors, unbelievable.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Everything they do suggests the goal is just to ruin the USA and its (former) allies.

[-] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 36 points 4 months ago

So what are we gonna do about it?

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

Watch in horror

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

I noticed my local Tesla dealership is not currently on fire…

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Seems like a good couple million dollar lawsuit against the government, especially if done against a judge's orders.

[-] BlitzFitz@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

And then if the executive branch ignores that decision?

There needs to be another plan than let them battle it out on the courts if they ignore court orders.

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

I thought the executive branch didn't control the budget, so wouldn't really be able to block it. But I'm not American and don't know the US system that well.

[-] BlitzFitz@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

You're not wrong...

The problem were finding out now is, there is no way for the branches to enforce their decisions unless they all agree.

If executive disagrees with judicial orders and doesn't follow and orders the departments under executive branch control to follow their orders anyway, there is no way for judicial or legislation branches to hold the executive accountable and stop them. Other than legislation impeaching people.

Not sure how many scenarios the US has been in where legislation ignored judicial ruling. And can't think of how judicial could ignore legislation and executive branches exactly...

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago

The article is about Trump (who has a history of ignoring court rulings) completely ignoring the courts, and your suggested solution is... the courts?

Wake the fuck up.

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[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 27 points 4 months ago

Whoever ignored that order should be held in contempt. You don't just "whoopsie" a judge's order.

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