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I know lemm.ee is hosted in the EU, but I can't find that information for lemmy.world.

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[-] MBM@lemmings.world 2 points 3 hours ago

FYI everyone who's sharing a Cloudflare location is only mildly doxxing themself

[-] bndkt@lemm.ee 12 points 7 hours ago

They probably use Cloudflare for Loadbalancing and Anti DDOS. This doesn’t mean it is hosted on Cloudflare, it is only a proxy. The point is not to show you the real IP so you can’t attack the origin server.

[-] nimble 31 points 8 hours ago
[-] undone@lemm.ee 30 points 7 hours ago

How dare you make us click a link and read for ourselves? Not what I signed up for.

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 14 points 6 hours ago

Well of course not, you joined lemm.ee

[-] undone@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago

After re-reading the fine-print I hereby fully commit my soul to the spirit of lemmy.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

AfaIk, they are hosted at Hetzner, so physically in Germany or Finland.

Edit: Source https://lemmy.world/post/22397634

~~Edit 2: The ip online tool on the website below indicates that it may actually be physically hosted in US (on a virtual server as, according to Wikipedia, Hetzner doesn't offer bare metal servers in US).~~

https://www.ipaddress.com/website/lemmy.world/

Edit 3: The IP is from Cloudflare, the servers are from Hetzner in EU.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 4 hours ago

AfaIk, they are hosted at Hetzner, so physically in Germany or Finland.

If I remember correctly, the main servers are in Hetzner's data centre in Finland with back-ups in Germany. Although they have a complex set-up so it may not be as cleanly divided up these days.

I suspect half the Fediverse runs on Hetzner at this point.

[-] notabot@lemm.ee 9 points 6 hours ago

The US IP address is for Cloudflare, who are acting as a front end for things like DDoS protection. A lot of lemmy servers use them, which is unfortunate, but there don't seem to be any viable European alternatives.

You can check the details with the whois command. The relevant bit when querying for one of their addresses is:

NetRange:       104.16.0.0 - 104.31.255.255
CIDR:           104.16.0.0/12                         
NetName:        CLOUDFLARENET                         
NetHandle:      NET-104-16-0-0-1                      
Parent:         NET104 (NET-104-0-0-0-0)              
NetType:        Direct Allocation                     
OriginAS:       AS13335                               
Organization:   Cloudflare, Inc. (CLOUD14)            
RegDate:        2014-03-28                            
Updated:        2024-09-04                            
Comment:        All Cloudflare abuse reporting can be
done via https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse             
Comment:        Geofeed: https://api.cloudflare.com/local-ip-ranges.csv                                     
Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/104.16.0.0
[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Thank you. So that's why you 'see' an US IP address while the physical server may be located anywhere, e.g. in Germany.

By looking at their Wikipedia, I've already found out that Cloudflare doesn't do hosting.

[-] notabot@lemm.ee 1 points 18 minutes ago

Cloudflare don't hoat sites, but they do end up being a 'man in the middle' attack on any site they proxy for, regardless of where that site is nominally hosted. That ends up exposing all traffic on those sites to a US corporation, and ultimately the US government. Considering that Cloudflare proxy somewhere between 19% and 40% of all websites, I think that's pretty alarming.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Hetzner also has US servers now, FYI.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

It's Germany. You can tell because the ToS mentions the service being subject to German law.

[-] UngratefulLilToad@feddit.org 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You have all information here.

https://fediverse.observer/

So Server Host for lemmy.world is Cloudflare, Inc.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 11 points 6 hours ago

Cloudflare doesn't do the hosting, just DNS/domain related related stuff. LW says they're hosting at Hetzner.

[-] UngratefulLilToad@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago

lemm.ee is also hosted on Cloudflare.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 9 hours ago

Hosting tools point to Toronto, Canada via Cloudflare.

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