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AfaIk, they are hosted at Hetzner, so physically in Germany or Finland.
Edit: Source https://lemmy.world/post/22397634
~~Edit 2: The ip online tool on the website below indicates that it may actually be physically hosted in US (on a virtual server as, according to Wikipedia, Hetzner doesn't offer bare metal servers in US).~~
https://www.ipaddress.com/website/lemmy.world/
Edit 3: The IP is from Cloudflare, the servers are from Hetzner in EU.
If I remember correctly, the main servers are in Hetzner's data centre in Finland with back-ups in Germany. Although they have a complex set-up so it may not be as cleanly divided up these days.
I suspect half the Fediverse runs on Hetzner at this point.
The US IP address is for Cloudflare, who are acting as a front end for things like DDoS protection. A lot of lemmy servers use them, which is unfortunate, but there don't seem to be any viable European alternatives.
You can check the details with the
whois
command. The relevant bit when querying for one of their addresses is:Thank you. So that's why you 'see' an US IP address while the physical server may be located anywhere, e.g. in Germany.
By looking at their Wikipedia, I've already found out that Cloudflare doesn't do hosting.
Cloudflare don't hoat sites, but they do end up being a 'man in the middle' attack on any site they proxy for, regardless of where that site is nominally hosted. That ends up exposing all traffic on those sites to a US corporation, and ultimately the US government. Considering that Cloudflare proxy somewhere between 19% and 40% of all websites, I think that's pretty alarming.
It's not an attack of you pay for it
I don't get the 'man in the middle' part. Is the ssl key for the encrypted https connection not from LW, but from cloudflare?
It's still problematic that they have metadata of the connections.
For cloudflare to encrypt the traffic they need the key.
Hetzner also has US servers now, FYI.
It's Germany. You can tell because the ToS mentions the service being subject to German law.