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[-] azalty@jlai.lu 2 points 8 hours ago

Sad day for people drinking cancer

[-] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 38 minutes ago

Well, it's just caffeine and sugar, but still unhealthy.

[-] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

mm sugar water

[-] AmbientDread@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago

Prices go up up up Never come back down down down

The invisible hand job economy

[-] uis@lemm.ee 9 points 12 hours ago

Oil prices go up - petrol goes up.

Oil prices go down - petrol goes up.

Oil prices do nothing - petrol goes up.

Petrol is purposeful and independent.

Be like petrol!

[-] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 83 points 1 day ago

Not only do they cost more, the greater surface area means your cold drink warms up faster.

Neat.

[-] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 35 points 1 day ago

Greater surface area also means more material for the same product, which leads to less effective transport, more waste and increased polution. Non-standarized can size means every can storage system and cup holder which have taken can size into consideration will be worse. I'm sure a lot of vending machines will have to be modified or scrapped for this can design.

Everyone are worse off because of this, and it's all for attempting to trick consumers and increase profits. Shit sucks.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Greater surface area also means more material for the same product, which leads to less effective transport, more waste and increased polution.

Weren't soda companies whining about aluminum costs just recently? Guess they found some extra in order to fleece their customers.

[-] loserville@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

These are more easily stackable and take up less horizontal space, so they are more efficient for transport.

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Is this a new thing in the US? We've had these in Europe for years - and I mean 10-15 at least.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

Hey we get this revolutionary super can which is supposed to keep your beer cool.
The ribs are supposed to reduce the contact area of warm fingers.
It doesn't work obviously since they aren't big enough and skin on fingers are flexible enough to touch everything.
You only pay 30 to 50% more for this nonsense.
Everyone tries to avoid them but somehow the normal cans are more than often 'sold out' in stores.

[-] some_dude@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

That's what you get for drinking jupiler

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I only partake in the finest carapils

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

A man of the people

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[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

I mean it sucks and I drink coke (it's my mix for booze) but it's a welcome change (price increase). Soda pop should not be drunk as frequently as it is by people and anything to make it less common is a welcome change IMHO. If becoming more cost prohibitive to people makes them drink it less that's not a bad thing

Now the challenge becomes, because America is becoming a 3rd world shithole it's possible that coke is the only safe drink because thanks to the EPA being gutted over decades water isn't safe in many areas due to contamination. That's not cool.

[-] loserville@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago
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[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Quick 'proof' the taller the can, the more material used:

Consider two cases ignoring the top and bottom only focussing on the surface area. In the first case, you flatten so much the can has no height. This forms a ring that when unwrapped makes a length of 2 pi R.

Now stretch the can to be 'infinitely' long. By construction, this is longer than 2 pi r. Given both are made of aluminum, and have the same density, the larger can has more mass requiring more material.

The total mass must be a continuous function ranging from the linear mass density times the circumference of the circle to the same mass density time times the 'length' of the infinite line. This must remain true for any small increase in length between the two.

I'll leave this as an exercise to the reader. What if the circle has an infinite radius?

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Isn't the larger the can proportional to how does both top and bottom shrink? like, being the same amount of material, but with a different distribution.

No he's right. The solution for an optimal surface area to volume ratio is a sphere. The farther you deviate from a sphere the less optimal you become. The actual math for this is finding deltaSurfaceArea in respects to cylinder radius for a given volume and then finding the maxima, which is a Uni physics 1 problem I really don't feel like doing. Long story short, optimal is when height = diameter, or as close to a sphere as a cylinder can be.

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks fot the aclaration.

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago

It's not really 'right' or 'wrong' it's under a fixed set of assumptions. You raise a valid point. What does happen to the top and the bottom? I was ignoring them considering only the sides in the two most extreme cases.

If I understand your case when the can is flatted the area gets much larger and when it gets taller it shrinks to a pin point. An equally valid approach

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

If I understand your case when the can is flatted the area gets much larger and when it gets taller it shrinks to a pin point.

Yes, that was what I meaning.

[-] Sibshops@lemm.ee 135 points 2 days ago

Good enough reason to boycott coke products, anyway.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 110 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The funding of Death Squads in Colombia is a better reason IMO but this works too, haha

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[-] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Dickflation.

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 108 points 2 days ago

Fun fact, a taller, narrower can uses more aluminum!

[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 31 points 2 days ago

It's definitely more surface area per volume, but a 200 vs 202 lid and a smaller hermetic seal cancels some of those losses. Sidewall is cheap aluminum wise, but you're likely right in that it's a little more aluminum. Definitely costs more to make since they do fill a little slower.

Also fuck coke, what a bunch of assholes

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[-] fadingembers 47 points 2 days ago
[-] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 22 points 2 days ago

The liberal media wants you to think that the two volumes of liquid are equal using their woke science, but if you use your common sense, you can clearly see that the narrow tube is filled higher and therefore contains more liquid. There is nothing wrong with the economy, real Americans just need to use narrower glasses. Checkmate, leftists. /s

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[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Where is the one on the left no longer available? I live in the US and see those all the time.

[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

People with vending machines aren't going to be happy, those new ones won't fit.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

You know, this should only trick young kids as they genuinely believe taller = more. The fact that it probably tricks a ton of adults just suggests their critical thinking never made it past adolescence and we should be very concerned by that.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

There's a book called "Thinking Fast and Slow" that talks about a bifurcation of the mental process between intuitive mental work and deliberative work. It goes through a bunch of examples of people with established credentials, careers in intellectual professions, and proven records of deliberative thought being tricked by relatively casual visual and verbal illusions.

Getting tricked by Tall Can isn't something you can "Critical Thinking" your way out of reflexively. It is something you have to exert continuous mental energy to achieve. When the overwhelming majority of your decisions are made reflexively, and even the process of stepping over from reflexive intuition to deliberative intuition is ultimately an intuitive process, you're going to get fooled more often than not. The only real defense is to intuitively train defensive behaviors, and that doesn't avert being fooled so much as it averts falling for the most common scams.

In the end, a handful of marketing flacks can consistently outwit any audience, because they can knowingly engage in a campaign of strategic deception more easily than you can reflexively catch every deceit thrown your way. What you need is a countervailing force. A regulatory agency dedicated to imposing transparency at the barrel of a gun can render calculated deceits more expensive to implement than they return in revenue.

But the "lolz, just don't fuck up" mentality is what leads to people getting gulled at industrial scales. You're not going to outsmart the professionals and its painfully naive to think otherwise.

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[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

You know, this should only trick young kids as they genuinely believe taller = more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-pound_burger?wprov=sfla1

Adults in Murica are just as dumb and unneducated

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[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago

So that's why they changed the shape. I saw no valid reason so I just assumed they were trying to evade taxes in some way. I'll admit I have no idea how much anything I buy at a convenience store costs.

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[-] SamB@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Babe, wake up. New shit corpo practice just dropped.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago
[-] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago

Common mistake. Its actually Florida ounces.

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