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There is no magical way out of this — there will be blood (www.alternet.org)
submitted 8 hours ago by homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world to c/politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26739451

This feels more like poignant food for thought and a call to be prepared for heavy rolls than actual news-news, but I don't know where else to share it on Lemmy.world, so my apologies if this content is better housed in a different community. I'm a reddit reject, so I'm still learning the norms here (and it appears I didn't learn them there, for what it's worth).

Thesis from the article: "It would be helpful if we stopped pretending this terrible chapter in American history won’t close without bloodshed…"

I've read some great dystopian novels, but their settings were all in established dystopias. Life as We Knew It is the only one I've read that follows the devolution from onset to full maturation, although I only read the first book of the series. I guess World War Z is another example. Both of those books' dystopias were catalyzed by major pseudonatural disasters. Anyone have any suggestions on other good titles that try to accurately portray what happens? I saw The Unthinkable: Who Survives When Disaster Strikes-And Why suggested in a sub before my ban. Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich is probably another good place to start as well.

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[-] jontree255@lemmy.world 26 points 8 hours ago

I was saying this as soon as it became clear more people voted for him in 2020 than in 2016. This was after hundreds of thousands were dead from COVID, the George Floyd protests, and all his other BULLSHIT.

I don’t want violence or a civil war but you do not defeat authoritarians/fascists with ideas. They only understand one thing: force.

The best we can hope for is that Trump and his sycophants hurt enough of their own cult for them to wake up but I think they’re in too deep.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm fine with letting them have whatever they have so long as they let the rest of us secede. America is proven to be a failure and liberal minded people are no longer represented. If they want to fight us a la civil war to force us to stay in I'm willing to shed blood, but it would be better for everyone if they just let the country go it's separate ways.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Maybe crashing the stock market for 2.000 Billions in just a month could help a little there?

[-] jontree255@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

It will have to be bad for months for it to even register for some people. The billionaires just see this as temporary. The cult thinks groceries are going to magically cost less one day.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Haven't read the article yet, but I'm hopeful it's worth reading because I strongly agree with OP's summary.

I'm pushing 70 and exhausted when I get home from picketing at a Tesla dealership for a few hours. I don't want violence, and certainly I'm too old and weak to participate in violence, but my eyes roll when people say we should write to our Congressional reps, or talk about taking back the House in the midterms or such silliness. Sweet Jeebers, are people completely lost in a sci-fi time warp? Politics as usual is finished in America.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

OK, now I've read it, and thanks again, OP. It's the first and so far only honest assessment of the situation I've seen anywhere.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

"You've landed on an exclusive AlterNet+ article. Subscribe now..."

No, and fuck off, AlterNet. Here's the article for free.

[-] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 hours ago

I gotta be honest - I don't think I can handle reading the likely content in that article right now. I'm going to save it and come back to it in a few days.

[-] mimavox@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

The Handmaid's Tale would be the most obvious example. It's an establish dystopia, but we get to se the onset in flashbacks (caveat: I have only watched the show, not read the novel.)

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

(caveat: I have only watched the show, not read the novel.)

[-] mimavox@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I guess this would be the right time to actually read the book.. :)

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Well, Margaret Atwood is, uh, how you say . . . "real good at word writing. Uh and stuff." You can quote me on that if you want. But, y'know. I wouldn't.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Our air, water, earned benefits, peace, public safety, civil rights, and human rights are all under immediate threat. Worse? This is only the first course of many that will be served by the vindictive, orange madman, and his pathetic party of supplicants. 

The insults, the attacks, endless provocations, and thrashing of our Constitution will continue daily. All this carefully planned evil will be aimed at exactly one thing: breaking us.

Everything he is doing is designed to pound us into submission, and he’s having a grand damn doing it.

This was entirely his aim when he and his pet mutt, JD Vance, double-teamed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the behest of Boss Putin in the Oval Office on Friday. The idea was to publicly humiliate the man who has done more to defend America’s interests across the globe than any Republican in memory.

[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 hours ago

Paywall and deleted article. I'd love to read it, but I can't.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Works for me, but here’s an archive as well.

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