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In a now-deleted post on Telegram, a hacking group called Dark Storm Team claimed responsibility for the attack.

Do you think it really was a group in Ukraine, or do you reckon that's bullshit?

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[-] circledot@feddit.org 157 points 5 days ago

I'd say he is making up a reason to turn off Starlink for Ukraine.

[-] kiku@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago

I agree. The thing is also that Ukraine has absolutely no motive to carry out a DDOS of Twitter.

What would the positive outcome even be? Piss off the leader of the country that your asking for money/weapons?

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago

Deorbit or seize the whole thing.

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago
[-] ghostlychonk@lemm.ee 102 points 5 days ago

Anonymous already claimed responsibility and I doubt they'd use multiple addresses from Ukraine, if any, honestly. He's blaming them to further convince right-wingers that Ukraine=bad.

[-] EX1T@literature.cafe 23 points 5 days ago

And to back this up they registered a domain for their "Operation Dreadnaught" on Feb 2. So it does show some premeditation instead of opportunistic attribution.

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

these people aren't right wingers anymore. they arent conservative.

its fascists, collaborators, and traitors, who've convinced people they are conservatives.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Conservative means to keep the status quo. We have only had a few years without defacto apartheid in this country and that is the status quo that they are trying to go back to. These people are absolutely right wing conservatives and please don’t let them fool you into thinking that there is a difference.

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[-] Naich@lemmings.world 78 points 5 days ago

The first "D" in "DDOS" stands for "distributed", i.e. it's coming from many places at once. Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.

[-] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 days ago

He's a propagandist piece of hairy shit

[-] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago

Actually not that hairy, you see the shirtless pic? He’s quite smooth, like a beluga whale.

[-] ka1ikasan@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago

This. And distribution is not even an option: such servers block IP addresses that send suspicious amounts of data anyways so the DDoS request must be distributed.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

Distributed just means "multiple sources" not "multiple countries".

[-] draughtcyclist@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Correct - but having seen them in action, well planned ones are executed from multiple countries at once so they can't just be geoip blocked.

My money is on Elon not understanding how it works, lying, or both. Much more history of that happening than the other.

[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I agree, to me this feels like a red herring

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 5 days ago

Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.

Fairly certain that there is enough evidence to support that he is both.

[-] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 40 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't believe a word out of this known liars mouth without evidence. It makes little sense for Ukraine to bite the hand that feeds them, so to say. It could very easily be Russia trying to frame them. Evidence is necessary!

[-] _wizard@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

How would one find evidence if the user utilized a VPN?

[-] ivn@jlai.lu 16 points 5 days ago

You don't DDOS through a VPN. The first D is for distributed, you do it from a multitude of devices, often hacked ones from a botnet. So DDOS attribution is hard. And if you want some scale you reflect the attack on some other machine that runs a service that allow for amplification, making attribution even harder.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 days ago

Using basically any VPN that allows server selection or tor would allow anyone to look like their IP was from Ukraine.

Hi guys, I'm from Ukraine!

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 days ago

Article says it’s a DoS but probably means DDoS because nobody does just a vanilla DoS anymore (they’re easy to block). No VPN is going to let you use their service to do a DDoS, setting aside the technical and logistical problems for attempting it, it doesn’t really do anything useful for a DDoS.

DDoS attacks aren’t possible to IP trace, they come from a wide range of compromised devices forming a bot net that runs on IP blocks spanning multiple different areas all over the world, making them impossible to distinguish from legitimate traffic. The only way to catch who is responsible for a DDoS is to find the botnet’s control surface (usually something like an IRC channel) and gain access to it yourself. Not likely unless you find the malware that created the bot net and pull it apart looking for a reference to the control system.

TL;DR: Elon musk is full of shit there’s no fucking way he knows where this attack originated from based on IP addresses because it probably didn’t use one easily blockable and identifiable IP range.

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 5 days ago

That’s exactly what someone who was from Ukraine trying to look like they were from Ukraine would say.

/s

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[-] b161 12 points 4 days ago

Hello I’m a Ukrainian hacker capable of brining down Twitter, but don’t have a clue how to use a VPN to obscure my originating IP address.

[-] peyotecosmico@programming.dev 18 points 5 days ago

The more I read about him the more I think he has no clue about tech.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

If you've ever heard him speak about your field of expertise then you'll know that he is 100% full of shit and bluffs his way through conversations.

[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

Wouldn’t it make sense if it was a Russian group posing as being in Ukraine, to further divide the US and Russia? I mean the Russian ministry of truth is already hammering hard at that bond. How stupid can one be not to see that?

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

It would make more sense than that Ukrainians did it.

[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Nah. Russia has been running circles around America in the information war. In Clarissa ward’s on all fronts, she talks about investigating Russian troll farms in Uganda that specifically targeted African Americans and stoked things like the BLM movement, etc. there is a reason why America is so divided. It’s why Europeans have started shutting off these things during elections, etc

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Why do you write nah, and then come with an example that confirms how Russians do this routinely?

Is there something ambiguous about my comment? That state it makes more sense that it's the Russians.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 5 days ago

Probably skimmed fast and missed the "than". Probably.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Or to put it another way, they didn't even read a comment that is only 1 frigging line, before downvoting!!!

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I think it's the "than that" is a little more complex of a construction that can be read over, and possibly missed. The sentence can be read with either of those missing, but if the "than" is missed it completely changes the meaning.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

But if you actually read the VERY short comment, it shouldn't be ambiguous.
Sad that people are so quick to downvote, without even reading a comment that is only 1 line!!

Doesn't matter how short or long it is. People intentionally write simple short sentences all the time with extra words that like 90% misread. The easiest of of these sentences to make are those that happen to have a word repeat after a linewrap, especially short common words. Than and that are close enough to fit into that same overlook.

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[-] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago

Nevermind the group who took credit, he's trying to drum up excuses to shut off Starlink in Ukraine.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 17 points 5 days ago

It could also be China. It could also be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

“It’s what anyone else would do.”

[-] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 14 points 5 days ago

at this point, why believe someone who can't differentiate 8 billion from 8 million?

reading numbers is not his strong suit.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

You see, Elon has so much money, that he never sees his wealth in the full format because it the number would be so fucking long, so it's always abbreviated like 8,000,000K

Easy mistake, you're just not rich enough!

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

He's such a fucking idiot. Has he absolutely no idea how these attacks work? They are routed around the world many times before the final attack vector.

Jesus Christ, he's such a fucking fraud.

[-] mapmyhike@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Nothing brings dumb people together like a common enemy. It is Zelenskyy, someone told me. He had tears in his eyes and I heard it from his uncle's cousin wife.

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