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submitted 5 months ago by JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

Nothing says "classy" like flying that flag.

Good L🍁ck Trudeau! (But also, don't let the door hit you on the way out...)

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[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 113 points 5 months ago

Trudeau will be remembered for many things

including all the conservatives that wanted to fuck him.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 months ago

I loved that the original attack ad they had when he was first running for Prime Minister was that he was too young and handsome to be a leader.

[-] veeesix@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 months ago
[-] chuck@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I guess that's why the cons dumped o toole he had no hair

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

In hindsight he was the best leader they had in a long time

But the Cons are kind of like the scorpion and the frog and I did not trust them one bit.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago
[-] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Used to have nice hair, still does, but used to too.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago
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[-] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

I'll also always remember how the Liberals pulled a judo-reverse on the Conservatives by turning their main line of attack back against them. I knew from the moment I saw that ad with Trudeau on the escalator that the Liberals would win.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Oh, do you have a link? I'm not Canadian but that sounds interesting.

E: Nvm found it.

[-] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's the one.

I don't know if my memory of that era comports with actual history, but this is how I remember it playing out:

It looked like the Conservative attack ads were going to win the election for them again, just as they had against Dion and Ignatieff. They were ahead and gaining in the polls, and the Liberals seemed to have no response. The slogan was, "Trudeau: he's just not ready."

Then the polls stabilized for a few days, and the Liberals released that ad. The polls started rapidly reversing, and the Liberals decisively swept into power. I don't think I even saw another, "he's not ready," attack ad from the Conservatives again after that.

EDIT: One can debate how much of an effect that ad had, and whether Trudeau's actions matched its promises, but for me it will always stick out as a good bit of political strategy.

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[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 months ago

And for letting us down on proportional representation: !fairvote@lemmy.ca

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

That was defintely the beginning of the end for Trudeau. And lost him all the young voters.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Proportional representation is not the answer because the party system does not work to begin with.

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

But proportional representation does not require political parties to be a part of the electoral system.

See single transferable vote (STV): A Simple Guide to Electoral Systems. It's still a work in progress, but lays out a good framework for discussing electoral systems.

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[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Many men were disappointed when arriving at the Ram Ranch to find Trudeau wasn't there.

But they made due.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Just finding out I'm a raging conservative. Oh god, I need to sit down... On his lap...

[-] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

This is in regards to our brethren down south, poking fun at 2nd amendmenters and their manly façade. Seems like cons all over the globe mostly like to larp as strong men but like if you gotta hide behind a firearm, are you really manly? 🤷‍♂️

"Hurt me but make me feel safe at the same time, you pussy liberals" https://youtu.be/TY0eUQ06Q2g

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

He is a thirst trap though even after ten years in office. He’s only 53 seems very young to retire. I’m curious to know what he does next. UN ambassador? Ambassador for Canada to France?

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I hope we keep him around as Chief Toddler Wrangler every time Trump comes sniffing around.

I'm not a big Trudeau fan but he's amazing at dealing with that creep. Remember the handshake during Trump's first term?

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[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

That's how I read those signs. That Bubba in the truck had a boner for Justin.

My response to those truck flags was always "Gay and proud. YES! You go girl!"

[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago

Most of the flags around here have already been swapped for "Fuck Trump".

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Glad to see civil discourse making a come back.

[-] dankm@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm honestly shocked that nobody's made one saying "Trudeau f🍁cked Mrs Trump" or somesuch.

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

But it was nice seeing so much NDP support! There's no way these people were supporting conservatives, as the things they were complaining about would only be even worse under PP.

...Oh, these people lack critical thinking skills, and they were being bought by conservative supporters?

[-] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Saw a f🍁CK Trump flag in Canada the other day and had to do a double take. I don't like Trump, but I still don't like the flags.

[-] Jmalcip97@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

Once saw a fuck Trudeau flag next to a every child matters flag on the same truck. Based centrist alert.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Did you just put a conservative in power? Have you learned nothing from us in the US.

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 42 points 5 months ago

Not yet, we still have hope it won't happen.

Our system is a bit different. We elect a party and that party has a leader. The leader of the elected party is the Prime Minister. The leader can step down and the party stays in power and selects a new leader, who then becomes Prime Minister. Trudeau stepped down and his party selected Carney to replace him, so we have a new prime minister and maintain a centrist government. (Centrist to us, left wing to the US.)

We can also have elections at any time, either by choice of the party in power, or forced by the opposition parties if they have enough seats in the government. Our current party in power, The Liberals, don't have a majority, so they've been maintaining power by making deals with a left wing party (the NDP or New Democratic Party). Liberal + NDP is one seat or so from a majority right now, so they've been finding additional support from other parties. This has actually worked out pretty well, as it has forced the government to be a little more proactive and given the left a good amount of power. There is always the threat of losing power and having to make different parties happy.

If the NDP (or others) decide they don't like Carney, they can force an election and then we will have the chance of getting that Conservative government you were worried about. Most likely they will wait a bit to see how things are going before doing that because their worst fear is forcing an election and ending up in a worse position (a Conservative majority.) If you hear that Canada has a new Prime Minister named Poilievre in the next year, you'll know we just ran into the same shit you guys did.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago

Thanks for explaining that. It sounds like a better system in that you can force an election at any time. I'm jealous of that right now.

I know the PR and propaganda machines have been going after Canada. I really hope you guys don't get forced or go willingly down the same road as us. I'll be looking for that Poilievre person to not be in the running.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

You can force an election for a minority government. If one party has a majority, it can go for a while, more then four years

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Okay, I'm not jealous of the 4 year part unless it has some hidden benefit. Maybe moving that slow keeps it stable?

[-] dom@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago

It wouldn't be a problem if we had proportional representation. In Canada, a party can get a majority government with a minority of the voting population due to how it's calculated. This often means low voter turnout because a large number of people feel their vote doesn't count.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

So you have the same problem as us. I think in the olden days, our corrupt politicians and elites colluded with the world's corrupt politicians and elites, and had a good laugh how they set it up in their favor.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

The leader can step down and the party stays in power and selects a new leader, who then becomes Prime Minister. Trudeau stepped down and his party selected Carney to replace him

Just to clarify further, the party did not select him. Liberal voters voted for Carney at an overwhelming majority.

[-] SGforce@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 months ago

Election hasn't happened yet but Trudeau is stepping down.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

Oh, got ya. It hasn't happened yet. Good luck to you fighting our stupid economic wars that we, the US, are certain to lose.

[-] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Nope. @JohnnyCanck has a good explanation of what just happened, but some other info to add.

We're heading into a federal election soon, and the Conservative Party (right of the Democrats, and infused with a handful of Trump-level nutbars) held a solid lead for several months. When Trudeau announced he was stepping down, followed by Trump's tarriffs, the lead shrunk to roughly the margin of error.

Carney is fairly conservative for the Liberal party - he was appointed to lead the Bank of Canada by a (very!) Conservative PM, and then went on to head the Bank of England. He's a money manager for the rich, which is concerning, but also might draw some of the centrists back from the extreme right.

There's a fair chance that our next government will - again - be a minority, which will require the collaboration of parties, and often is when the most good gets done. Or we might get a CPC/Poilievre majority, in which case we'll be sucking up to Trump like a vacuum for four years.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

The "Fuck Carney" flags are already in production, I guarantee it.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

But they look so good on trucks. /s

[-] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

But they look so good on raised, coal-rolling trucks with balls. /s

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[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

Canadian equivalent of Let's Go Bradon?

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

The "Fuck Trudeau" flags? No, they are a conservative way of saying they are a piece of shit regressive that are in the closet.

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

I thought that's what let's go Brandon was too?

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