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A vocal Trump supporter, Georgescu received backing from Trump officials, including Elon Musk and JD Vance,
Romania, good job.
Why doesn’t Romania want their political system and economy destabilized because of morons?
Well, on one hand, I like the far-right getting some institutional push-back. On the other hand, I'm a little concerned with both the state of democracy
that such a candidate could get so many votes
and the disregard for the people's vote
while there may have been significant Russian interference, to what extent should the courts intervene with what seems to be a genuinely popular candidate?
Paradox of tolerance. Don’t fall for it. Fascists do not now, and will never, get the benefit of the doubt.
Sigh... I really don't like the way things have been going in Europe...
Hey man, I know it’s kinda crazy. But overall, it’s better than what’s happening over here in the states.
There is strong legal backing to this. Romania bars anyone with ties to or rhetoric similar to the Iron Guard (Romanian fascists) from running. Georgescu has strong ties to them, and he's not even the only politician barred from running due to this for this election (Sosoaca).
Georgescu has strong ties to them
I see he's praised the Iron Guard before. Makes sense.
It's a tough call to make, isn't it? Baring a candidate is inherently undemocratic, surely in a perfect democracy any candidate who is receiving votes should be considered. However given the current state of global politics, it's also equally true that any candidate who is being manipulated by an outside government (such as allegedly Russia/USA in this example) should be restricted for the very same reasoning of allowing the voters to have their say without interference or manipulation by people who have an interest in the election being decided undemocraticly.
Ultimately, the decision to prevent any candidate, popular or not, is one that should not be taken lightly. And yet must also be a decision that can and should be made under the right conditions to protect the democratic nature of elections.
I sincerely hope that the people who made the decision in this case explain their reasoning publicly, and have a very good justification for doing so.
Yeah, I do suppose you're right on that... We'll wait and see. At the end of the day, I guess it's the Romanian people that'll have to decide whether this was acceptable or not, too.
It's a shitshow if you look at it closely. Basically he got so many votes because the ruling party wanted to try the pied piper strategy that gave the US Trump. That included giving his campaign illegal support, which invalidated the previous election. And now they're just outright going to ban him. They're just throwing away democracy and pretending they're saving democracy.
Not that I want the guy to win or be anywhere near power, but it's a strategy that will backfire eventually and has in many countries. But I guess the alternative is to actually deliver for the people and that's obviously unacceptable.
You misspelled "deliver for Putin". A lot of countries have laws against foreign influence attacks on their elections.
While I'm sure Putin loves this candidate as well, he was supported by another party within the country. And by deliver for the people, I mean end austerity. If people all have housing, food, jobs, etc, they're not going to fall for the far right playbook.
I guess we'll see...
fascists deserve to be barred from oxygen
I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, this pretty much confirms that the leading parties have been colluding to manipulate elections. The ideal situation would have been him getting his ass whoopped by being voted out. On the other, there was a non-zero chance that he might actually have won.
Either way, the shitshow is not even close to being over. These parties make up 32% of our current parliament, and they're likely to grow after this stunt, so we'll have to deal with this crap again during the next election cycle, or sooner.
As a Romanian I'm on the same page as you. While I completely despise this guy for his ties to the fascist movement in Romania, his corrupted political allies, and his closeness to dictators like Trump and Putin, barring him from running for office is a big mistake if no concrete evidence against him is actually laid out. A democracy should be transparent. This entire ordeal wasn't.
Also people of that kind love nothing more than being a martyr, which means if the whole decision is not absolutely bulletproof, this has the potential to backfire so much. Not Romanian, but I was listening some opinion piece about this just few days ago.
The guy said that if he becomes president, he'll dismantle all political parties. In a democratic system you cannot let someone run for president if they openly vow to dismantle democracy itself.
Great example of the paradox of tolerance.
It’s good that Romania is defending its democracy - Georgescu is a fraud as much as he is a clown, clearly unfit for office as he will not uphold the rule of law and will abuse his power.
With that said, where do you draw the line when barring people from running? Some will see this as an attack of democracy itself, in which anyone is allowed to run for office and is elected by the people. Blocking adversaries from running isn’t exactly the definition of democracy.
Unless the secret service declassifies its evidence that Georgescu is in any way affiliated or promoted by Russia, I see this going downward, with him and his ideology getting even more supporters due to this paradox of tolerance.
Why does this use 40% instead of the percentage of votes he got in the last election: 23%
damn. they should do the sort of thing in other countries
They did release an official statement later in the day to explain the rejection: https://adevarul.ro/stiri-interne/evenimente/de-ce-a-respins-bec-candidatura-lui-georgescu-2427400.html
And the full document: https://www.realitatea.net/stiri/politica/cum-explica-bec-respingerea-candidaturii-lui-calin-georgescu-document-oficial_67cdfbf3430c6b3d205eb226
Unfortunately, it's still kind of abstract and legalese, with not further proof of interference. And it's mostly self referencing the previous annulment as the cause.
Călin Georgescu's candidacy does not meet the conditions of legality, as he "by failing to respect the rules of the electoral procedure, violated the very obligation to defend democracy", which is based on "fair, honest and impartial" elections.
While it's good avoid another Putin lapdog, the way in which this was done might come back to bite them in the ass.
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