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Culinary map (i.redd.it)
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[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago

I knew an Italian exchange student that kept whining that nothing tasted good and nothing tasted as it should up here in Scandinavia. Then another exchange student (from Thailand I think) got tired of him and told him ~"the rest of the world isn't your mother" and it was a literal moment of realisation for this dude.

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[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 day ago

I wholeheartedly support culinarily disrespecting Italians, honestly.

Dudes trying to convince us that they are presenting ancient traditions when their precious dishes are invented in like the 60s

[-] htrayl@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

Also, many times they will say some isn't an authentic way to do something, and then you will learn it is authentic for like, a few towns over.

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[-] reyp@feddit.it 7 points 1 day ago

tourist traps are everywhere. nevertheless Italian cousin remains top notch. fact

[-] UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Must be a freak in the sheets.

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Food in Portugal is delicious

[-] alxmg@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

I second this map.

[-] los_chill@programming.dev 28 points 1 day ago

Spanish and Greek food beats Italian. Heck Polish food is way underrated. Also American pizza is better.

[-] reyp@feddit.it 8 points 1 day ago

American pizza made by Italian immigrants. ftfy

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 day ago

Funny seeing this, especially from an iberian perpective, because local culinary is mostly the same as theirs. With the slight difference we actually have the balls to spice our food.

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[-] reyp@feddit.it 37 points 1 day ago

Spain and Portugal should be tier 1 or 2

[-] Anissem@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Madrid’s food scene is amazing

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[-] Meltdown@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

If you wanna be pedantic, Italian pasta is actually the knockoff of Chinese noodles.

Also, Greek food is fantastic!

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

Yes, it is, and, yes, it is!

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[-] vios4d@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

You're absolutely right! Cooking is all about experience and experimentation. Just like how a sushi chef masters the art of raw fish preparation, you get more comfortable with different types of fish and techniques over time. The key is to try various recipes, observe the textures and flavors, and learn how different fish react to cooking. You'll soon develop an intuition for how long to cook them, based on the thickness or fragility of the meat.

Your story with chicken resonates too! Everyone starts somewhere with a bit of hesitation, but as you practice, you build confidence. It’s all part of the learning process. Keep going, and you'll find yourself navigating different ingredients with ease!

As an American who just had some glorious fake pizza last night, I thought I hated pasta until I had good Italian, and then I realized I just hate Americanized Italian food. Except pizza, we do it better.

Pasta still isn't my favorite, but I'll take it if it's authentic. My SO makes some great aglio e olio and carbonara, often with shrimp.

[-] qqq@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As someone who makes pizza from scratch every week, I love all forms of pizza from fast food US pizza (like Dominos), to "drunk" US pizza dipped in ranch, to NY pizza, to Chicago deep dish, but what I make at home is always simple Italian pizza with just a few ingredients: dough, a sauce made from San Marzano tomatoes specifically canned for pizza with some salt, fresh oregano, mozzarella cheese, and olive oil. Sometimes I add a ton of arugula on top too. What's nice is that pizza is also kinda healthy actually.

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[-] Rakete@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, Italian chef friend of mine once said that you use garlic, or onions, rarely both, in authentic italian food. Unless you are from one of the many places where they always use both.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

A lot of people don't realize that Italy is a relatively young country comprising multiple distinct regions and culinary histories.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

correct, a lot of "traditional" methods people think are possibly ancient, are like 150 years old. Some areas are culturally diverse to the point where they are basically a completely different culture, in comparison.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Fake pizza, sure, but doesn't imply it's bad. Plus ironically, you can find Italian style pizza in the US if you look for it.

That said, I'll still apologize for Dominos, Pizza Hut, et. al. for fast-foodizing the concept of pizza.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

Domino's looks like pizza but it's terrible. I'd rather never eat pizza again if Domino's were the only option.

[-] match@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago

okay but north africa food?

[-] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well, the map is titled, "Culinary Map of Europe" :D

[-] epicstove@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Pre 1600s: Y'all a wanta some Rotting fish juice?

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.

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[-] Foni@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

How can you put Spain on the same level as Great Britain? Damn Italians don't know how to make anything other than sauce with tomatoes and they think they know how to cook.

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[-] makyo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I mean, Italian food really is brilliant, they really just over time took all the best things they found and just made great food with it and left out everything else.

It's sort of crazy to think about how delicious a recipe with four ingredients can be until you realize they're four of the most delicious things on the planet.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

It's like Japanese food: protein and or produce of your choice, soy sauce, sake, mirin, dashi. Maybe miso. Combine ingredients to your preference.

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[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

The Netherlands is probably an "overcooked pasta" enclave than. When I was a kid, I was sure Al Dente was Italian for Deathly Toxin.

[-] Exec@pawb.social 10 points 1 day ago

overcooked pasta
Al Dente

Ah, so Al Dante

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[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I grew up north of the toxic belt, and it's my firm opinion that Italian food is overrated. Well, except Parmesan, I'll give them that.

Lasagna is like a moussaka with too much tomato sauce and layers of pasta that should've been skipped.

Anyone who downvotes this is either Italian, or has a fetish for mashed tomatoes.

[-] reyp@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago

Downvoted. I'm Italian. Nevertheless. De gustibus non disputandum est. But quality ingredients and culture make all the difference. Fun fact: I eat pasta once a month and pizza twice a year. Yet Italian and Spanish ingredients beat ingredients/produce from any other other European country.

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[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

poland in the fattening/caution zone is kind of on point actually

i fucking love polish food and feel that describes it pretty well X3

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I mean, it may not be the best, but this puts portugal in a very bad position when we are all mediterranean with mostly the same ingredients.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

To quote a portuguese writer, very loosely: better food is served on a portuguese farm kitchen table than in the great dinning halls of Europe.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

You ever had Basque pork stew? I never would have thought to put an orange in stew, but goddamn if it isn't delicious.

http://www.grouprecipes.com/115130/basque-pork-stew.html

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Orange goes well with fat rich meats and the thyme accentuates it. That's a nice take. But I risk the original oranges used would be bitter oranges, to give the dish an extra touch.

Try to roast some pork belly marinated in orange juice, white wine, garlic and bay leaves. Overnight and chilled. Then allow the meat to dry over a rack for thirty minutes and give it some coarse salt. Drizzle with a bit of olive oil. Low heat oven for two hours, then high heat to crisp the skin. Turn upside down midway. Bast regularly with the marinade. Slice thin, serve with finely choped onion, garlic, bell pepper and parsley, with orange zest added to it. In the fat that rendered, over high heat, sautée two chillies, add two or three sliced oranges and allow to brown at the edges. Sprinkle with thyme. Fresh bread and a strong red wine. Don't drive afterwards.

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[-] makyo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Wow this is the most triggering post I've seen in a while and that's saying a lot in these times

[-] Carlo_io@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago

I confirm. Source: I'm Italian:):):)

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