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Marjorie Taylor Greene, a prominent Republican congresswoman and a staunch ally of Trump, suggested a return to "measles parties" for children. She criticized contemporary attitudes towards vaccination, stating, "Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids."

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[-] riskable@programming.dev 185 points 5 months ago

"I didn't vaccinate my kids and the one that lived turned out fine!"

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

"The Shotgun Philosophy of Life"

[-] hohoho@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

Survivorship bias at its finest

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

......is that an actual quote from her? The world is getting so stupid that I genuinely could see this being legit from her.

I could also see it being a line on the simpsons, if the simpsons still had good writters.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 163 points 5 months ago

“Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids.”

It's pretty normal to demonize parents who abuse children.

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[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 81 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I spent SO MUCH TIME during my pediatrics clinical rotation explaining vaccines to new parents. In some cases, I sat there for a literal hour and debunked myths and conspiracy theories in order to get the parents to consider maybe doing a delayed vaccination schedule. I'm a medical student, so my time is basically worthless and I viewed this as a good use of it, but it was so incredibly frustrating to have to do over and over.

For other folks who know anti-vax parents (new or not), here's the best line of argument I came up with:

Vaccines have been around for a very long time now, and the only changes we've made to them recently is to make them better and safer. The preservatives in them like the mercury compound are perfectly safe, but we've still worked hard to improve the manufacturing process to minimize the need for those preservatives and make the vaccines as pure as possible.

Vaccines are made of little fragments of the virus or bacteria, or a modified, significantly weaker version of the pathogen to give your child's immune system a chance to see it before the real thing shows up. It's like giving your child's immune system a wanted poster or a punching bag to practice on because it has to make special tools to fight each different pathogen.

The reason we load kids up with so many vaccines in the first year or two of life is because their immune systems are still growing and it's an optimal time to introduce things for it to prepare for, and we want to give them some protection of their own before the antibodies from mom run out around 6 to 12 months of life.

We have decades of data showing that vaccines are safe and effective, and the complications and side effects are so minor compared to the problems that can come from the disease. And it's usually around 1000:1 ratio of complications from the disease versus complications from the vaccine, and the vaccine complications are almost always less severe than the complications from the disease.

If you refuse vaccination for your child for reasons besides an anaphylactic allergy to the ingredients, you are gambling your child's life with most of these diseases, and it would have been an entirely preventable death. Vaccines are very hard to make and we have prioritized making vaccines for the diseases that kill children. We don't bother making vaccines for things that are just a nuisance, so the vaccines we have exist for very good reasons. For the most famous example, measles has about 5 different ways it can kill your child that are impossible to treat or prevent once they have it, and many ways to cause permanent damage. The known and most common side effects of the measles vaccine are pretty mild and can be easily treated with medications we have available.

Edit: Fuck it. I've decided that I'm going to use some of my copious (/s) free time writing a children's and parents' book about vaccine safety with this argument. I will self publish if I have to and give it out in family medicine and pediatric clinics if it kills me.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

Another worth noting is if an antivaxxer says "we don't know what they put into vaccines", respond with "we don't know what they put in painkillers and yet you take them no problem". Nine times out of ten, these antivaxxers would take painkillers willy nilly without question. Saying this makes them question their line of thought. Heck, the same could be said just about anything. We don't know what cooks in restaurants put into the food we ordered, and yet there is no significant movement advocating to stop ordering takeaways or eating outside of home.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

The sad thing about debunking is that you need to have direct contact with the person under a delusion to build rapport and need to be quite knowledgeable about the topic, but planting the the delusion can be done at a large scale by any eloquent doofus with time to spare. It's so frustrating.

[-] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

It is always harder to build than to destroy.

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[-] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 5 months ago
[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 28 points 5 months ago

Chuckles I'm in danger!

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 64 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids

They should have their skulls kicked in before even thinking of having children

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 58 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I was a kid when they were first developing the vaccines for measles, mumps, and rubella (we called it German measles). So my brothers and I all got every one of them. I remember being sick with them, and with one of the measles types (don't remember which) I was so sick I though I was gonna die. I'll never forget lying there, even thinking of certain things made me puke (or dry heave) so I had to concentrate on not thinking of anything. I remember puking so hard it came out my nose. One of my brothers was so sick, his fever was so high, they took him to the hospital.

Do parents really want to put their children through this instead of a shot? WTF

[-] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

should be child abuse

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[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

i had no sympathy for anti-vax adults during covid, their choice to risk their lives. But children with basic vaccinations? their parents are taking the risk and the ones that didn't choose are getting the consequences

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

One side takes the risk, the other side faces the consequences.

Are we still talking about parents/children? Because that also applies to republican politicians/everybody else

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

That moron again? Someone fire her please!

[-] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 48 points 5 months ago

Out of a cannon? Into the sun?

[-] xorollo@leminal.space 26 points 5 months ago

I am thankful that I can upvote your comment without fear of loss of access to information.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Out of a trebuchet pointed at a wall.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 months ago

Trebuchet yes, but still at the sun. No, she won't reach. That's okay. Parabolas are beautiful. Don't @ me.

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[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Out of a canon.

Into the sun.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

It's so weird that they don't want abortions to be legal but they basically want spontaneous death to happen after birth.

[-] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 months ago

Yay, baby gambling!

But on the serious note, they want poor to be confused, miserable and desperate. They themselves take all the best healthcare, all shots and boosters, but they want for pandemic to happen because it would occupy ordinary people's minds and also give the government additional abilities to control everyone, while the collapsing market would once again benefit the rich and make poor even poorer. There's no downside for the likes of MTG, Trump and RFK as long as they are in power.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Stupid bitch.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 29 points 5 months ago

Arrest her for attempted homicide

[-] protonslive@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago

Laws are not made for the rich and in line. Its made for us. We can complain all we want but we should be able to all see this pattern by now

[-] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

She needs to be censored and imprisoned.

[-] TylerBourbon@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

She is massively psycho. She's the same shit stain that harassed teenage survivors of school shootings. Clearly she doesn't give a shit about kids.

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[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

So arrest and jail her

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Jesus Christ she is a fucking moron

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago

Thought the bitch was pro life? This seems quite anti-life to me.

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[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

Measles isn't fucking chicken pox…

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[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 months ago

Margerine Taylor Greene can go fuck herself!

[-] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 15 points 5 months ago

Excuse me, you misspelled Margarine Trailer Queen.

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[-] dwzap@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

This is a death cult.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Stupid bitch would be advocating for ebola parties if there was a vaccine for it.

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[-] cupcakezealot 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

bet she won't be censured for "decorum violations".

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 17 points 5 months ago

Nurgle cultist. May measles spread and give new life from the dead and rotten.

[-] WatDabney@fedia.io 15 points 5 months ago

When did we start rewarding politicians for being angry and stupid?

[-] dan@lemmy.i.secretponi.es 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Since 1994. When Newt Gingrich first slithered onto the scene to start spreading lies and dumb bullshit. Prior to that it was just lies.

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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Pro Life only until it's born, then fuck that Life

[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

They aren't pro-life. They are forced birth. It isn't about the baby, it's about power over women.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The future seems not that bad now that I know we won't be seeing an entire generation of Republicans

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[-] brezel@piefed.social 12 points 5 months ago

I fully agree, i think all trump voters should go to measles parties.

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[-] yarr@feddit.nl 12 points 5 months ago

I propose a herpes and SARS party for her.

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