Last time, he was out of office, so it was a little gray. This time they don't have that excuse.

But they also aren't going to convince the Republicans to go along with it this time either, and even if they do, we're still stuck with Vance, another anti-democracy turd.

Yes and no. They system is designed for sustainability. However it's been 3 elections since we had a chance of fixing it. We had a chance with Obama. But now they have the Supreme Court and gerrymandering. It's an uphill battle.

Oh my God I am so tired of this back-and-forth.

When people say it’s not strategically sound to impeach, everyone says the Democrats have no spine. Now they’re calling to impeach, and it’s “what’s the damn point?” Are you fucking kidding me?

They’ve never had the votes to convict at literally any time. Should they never have gone for impeachment in the past? When is it acceptable to? Where is the line?

This time it's really really urgent tho. What a clown country

And my axe!

I also signed the petition.

If you were in the military would you follow orders that are unconstitutional? Which is to say, an order that requires you to suppress the American people?

I would hope service people would see what is happening and say no. But that's a hope more than anything.

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When Nixon was forced by the Supreme Court to produce the tapes (as opposed to the transcripts he had offered), shortly thereafter, once the tapes had been reviewed, it became clear that Nixon would be impeached.

A delegation of Republican representatives went to Nixon at the White House (several of whom were some of his most ardent supporters)and informed him that if he did not resign the house would vote to impeach, and the senate was likely to convict.

Back then there was a much stronger lean towards country over party, as well as a sense that facts existed. We also had a president, who - despite being evil in so many other ways - had actually read the constitution, and believed in the founding principles of the nation.

There were many heroes during Watergate. Among them, Sam Ervin (Democrat) in the Senate, and Howard Baker (Republican) - chair of the Senate Watergate Committee.

Soon, Trump will do something that will ensure that none of the current Republican house members can get reelected. Once that happens, support will collapse in the house and he will be impeached, convicted, and removed from office.

They will then put the couch-fucker on a very short leash, since he does not command nearly the kind of frothing, insane, mindless, idolatry that the Orange Cheeto currently enjoys.

At the end of the day, impeachment is a political act. Put all the GOP house reps in peril for the midterms and they will drop Krasnov like hot rock.

No, it didn't, in the same way that the existence of liars doesn't diminish the meaning of truth.

Half of Americans are fascist partisans. That sucks, but it doesn't mean ethics don't matter, and pretending otherwise is pathetic.

What impeachment is, at it stands, is futile. No system can function as intended when half of the people in it are bad faith actors.

250k have signed this particular petition to date - not "only 250k Americans want to kick Trump out". The effort began less than two months ago - it's a start.

yeah, you don't need anywhere near that many signatures for Congress to take action.

but with rump being such an actively terrible president, it's not surprising they got so many signatures in only a few weeks.

not to sign the petition.

it's a legitimate petition that you don't have to pay anything to sign.

What are you talking about? They don't ask for money anywhere on the site - show me where they ask for money.

Edit: downvote instead of a response? Classy, Vlad.

Edit ++: proof was provided, I stand corrected.