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How is the Piracy community adapting to port forwarding becoming a rarer premium feature, and most users on public trackers do not have it? Is the bitorrent protocol in need of update? (self.piracy)

submitted 1 month ago by FundMECFSResearch to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 66 points 1 month ago

IPv6. My stupid ISP actually shipped their router with all inbound ipv6 blocked with no way to unblock it, so I set up opnsense. Works like a charm!

[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 37 points 1 month ago

At least your stupid ISP has IPv6. Mine doesn't (yet).

[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 13 points 1 month ago

Fair enough, I guess. Still, I was dumbstruck by lack of ability to open up a port.

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[-] FundMECFSResearch 23 points 1 month ago

I'm very uneducated about this stuff. How does IPV6 fix that issue?

[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 38 points 1 month ago

It doesn't fix it, per se, rather removes the need for layers of hacks such as nat and cg-nat. Every device gets a globally routable IP - no need to forward anything, just open the port you want.

[-] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 1 month ago

This doesn't solve for VPNs no longer offering it though, unless the VPN services started offering pure v6 via tunnel at some point while I wasn't looking. I know I've never seen a v6 pier in the last few years since I started sailing again.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah thats been my issue. It works fine on my unprotected IP. But I don't have the cash to spend on expensive vpns and the cheap options seem to universally be shlt for port forwarding, ie. seeding

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[-] R0gueS4t3llite@infosec.pub 45 points 1 month ago

As someone who has recently started seeding as much as I can, this is a great question to which I don't have the answer.

I am not renewing my Proton yearly subscription after it ends due to recent developments. They seem to be the only "big name" VPN with the port forwarding feature. I heard of OpenVPN, but have not had a chance to dig into it too much.

My ISP does not provide IPV6 support, so this will be pretty important to sort out soon.

[-] Davel23@fedia.io 29 points 1 month ago

OpenVPN is client/server software for setting up a VPN on your own infrastructure. It's not a third-party service like ProtonVPN.

[-] Cgers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago

Airvpn offers port forwarding

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

Aren't they located in Italy, the Shithole that keeps trying to outlaw all VPNs and/or force them to provide backdoors and identifiable customers? They can only be stopped so many times before they succeed...

[-] Cgers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

Yeah it's a bit of a "for now" thing and worth keeping an eye on Italy. To their credit, they don't offer services in Italy itself anymore after the "privacy shield" bullshit because "it goes against their mission" (for what that's worth lol)

Afaik, there's not many other choices for port forwarding

[-] bigDottee@geekroom.tech 10 points 1 month ago

I seem to be out of the loop in regards to proton controversy and I haven’t found anything outstanding against them…

Can you help me understand what you’re specifically referring to? I’m a proton user… so kinda want to know lol

[-] FundMECFSResearch 22 points 1 month ago

as far as I can tell their CEO is a semi alt right cunt. Apart from that everythin seems pretty okay and the recent shift to nonprofit status is cool

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[-] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've been happily using Windscribe for a while now, they have port forwarding with a dedicated IP. Averaging out the separate charges, it's about $4 USD/month for a custom plan (1 location + unlimited data) + dedicated IP. Technically their Pro tier includes ephemeral port forwarding, but I don't like how it works.

[-] JayGray91@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

I use Private Internet Access (PIA) and that has port forwarding. I read something about it on reddit but forgot about it, so idk of there's anything bad it controversial surrounding PIA.

[-] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

They got bought by a malvertising company a few years ago. It's what made me drop them after being a customer of theirs for years.

[-] Ilandar@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

There is, just not in relation to piracy. The concerns are more over its financial incentives/ownership and privacy.

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[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 38 points 1 month ago

Bulgaria, Hong Kong, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Netherlands, Russia, Cyprus, Moldova, Romania, Ukraine, Singapore, and Sweden. They all spit in the eye of DMCA.

VPS in any of these countries, or just find a provider that doesn't care about torrenting. If you go the VPS option, run your own VPN and just look for a VPS that allows considerable traffic. A quick example, Ultahost (Netherlands) offers a VPS with unlimited bandwidth for $7/mo if you pay for 3 years in advance. Like sure, now you're paying to torrent, but I would rather pay $7/mo to protect myself with a VPN that I control vs worrying about port forwarding and getting DMCA's in the mail. 🤷‍♂️ I guess it depends on how much skin you want in the game.

[-] ntn888@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

That's exactly what I did. Better yet I routed it though a wireguard tunnel! I documented the process here.

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[-] tVxUHF@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago

We just need to add I2P directly into the client in a way that's transparent to the user and all the problems are solved.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 7 points 1 month ago

How does the I2P architecture solve the port forwarding issue. Is peer discovery easier within I2P?

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago

The best solution IMO are seedboxes

We also have a community dedicated to them: !seedboxes@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[-] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 15 points 1 month ago

I've never used port forwarding. Everything works fine

[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago

That's for downloading, but it you want to upload/seed, then you would need port forwarding.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 14 points 1 month ago

and for downloading too when no one else has forwarded a port in the swarm

[-] MangoPenguin 7 points 1 month ago

You can still seed to users that do have port forwarding.

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[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

When you are not port forwarding you can only download from users who are actually port forwarding, or am I incorrect?

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[-] ISOmorph@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago

You have to separate pirating and torrenting. I'm pirating stuff non stop each day. I'm torrenting maybe once a month, if that. It's just not the go to thing for a lot of users, so issues around VPNs and torrenting probably aren't that pressing to warrant any kind of reaction.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

why is port forwarding a premium feature? isn't it just a setting on your router

[-] kane@femboys.biz 11 points 1 month ago

There are providers that do not provide you your own IPv4 address, with a feature called "CGNAT". Often, they will then block you from port-forwarding altogether.

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Bc $$$.

My provider won’t allow it unless I pay them $15/mo extra.

You can change the setting on your router anytime but it won’t work if your ISP doesn’t actually allow it.

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[-] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

Look in to i2p

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[-] RelativeArea1@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

most are still stuck to ipv4 and being NATted to oblivion, instead of adopting newer ipv6