And just like that America lost that much foreign power.
Good work EU.
You could always invest in the European defense industry, rather than US stocks https://i.imgur.com/cUpqyJo.png . In any case I'm not looking forward to the US becoming Russia 2.0.
Maybe the US's collapse will be good thing long-term. Sucks that so many people have to suffer before that, though.
But they finally got what they've wanted - NATO spending their agreed amount. Let's see how it goes 🤷♂️
About fucking time
Trump is an asshole, and the US should absolutely be the leader in defending Ukraine given its stockpiles and technologies and the immediacy of the need.
At the same time, Europe was able to fund some pretty nice social programs by minimizing defense spending over the last few decades. They could only do that with aggressors on their borders by relying far too heavily on the US.
The US spends more per capita on healthcare than any country with socialised healthcare
You're the second person to write that, and it's entirely irrelevant to European military spending, Russia, and Ukraine.
What I’m saying is that you can have those social programs that you say Europe has and the USA would actually be able to put even more money towards your military. Your current system is wildly less efficient because it’s setup to enrich middlemen (insurance companies).
The social programs existing have nothing to do with military spending in Europe
Your first point has already been made by others and is off-topic for the post.
European governments have budgets. With a set amount of revenue, they can spend more on social programs if they spend less elsewhere. If they want to keep their social spending and spend more elsewhere, they will have to increase their revenues. Not having the extra expense has made things better for them, and now that is going to end.
It's very simple, and maybe people should stick to the point and not feel triggered to respond against hyper-capitalist America.
The eu sent $5b more in arms to Ukraine than the us did.
They need to increase that but also keep more for themselves.
I keep hearing this but I'm a skeptic at heart. You wouldn't happen to have some sources would you?
Lots of people are saying Trump is an asshole.
That is the only part of your comment that doesn't need additional sources
More than likely possible depending on how they came up with valuations on old stock piles from the cold war. Depends on if you value them based on their original cost, or the modern cost to replace them.
They could also afford to make the disgustingly rich even richer. By a lot.
Shore up aid how? With UK’s nonexistent SPGs (they sent basically their entire SPG fleet into Ukraine) and Poland’s SPG fleet that has already been gutted in half from SPG deliveries to Ukraine? Or Germany’s 1 trillion euro aid package proposal to Ukraine which nearly won the horrendous AFD party the election?
I presume by... making things? with the 800 billion euros?
Outrageous. Pish-tosh! Argylbargle!
No way dude! But with what industry though?
In all seriousness, Russia was producing 20-30 T-90Ms per month (or 240-360 per year) in 2024 going off of monthly deliveries. The entirety of Europe cannot even match this. The only country I am aware of that can produce this many tanks per month is South Korea and China. This has likely increased since then but due to increased OPSEC, there have been no videos of batches of T-90Ms (or even T-72B3s) being delivered. But missile production has doubled since 2024 so I would not be surprised that tank production has also doubled to 40-60 per month (480-720 per year).
I have been keeping track of T-90M deliveries for a while now:
It was always around 20-30 per month last year. This means Russia produces more tanks than the amount the entire German military has in a single year. And as I stated, this likely has doubled but it is impossible to verify as OPSEC means we have not seen any deliveries on video for half a year now. Europe can't even produce their own ballistic missiles which have been a game changer in Ukraine as shown by the effectiveness of ATACMS and Iskander-M.
Russia is producing more shells than the entirety of Europe combined who struggles to supply Ukraine with even a million shells (while Russia was producing 3 million per year in 2024).
Russia us on a wartime economy and struggling with 1 European country that is using a portion of peacetime stocks from the rest of Europe.
If Europe wants to take this seriously, Russia doesn't have a chance.
Russia does not have a wartime economy. They are only spending 6% of their GDP on their military which is comparable to the US or Poland in terms of percentage of GDP. EU has given up far more than just a portion. UK has supplied Ukraine with all of its SPGs. Poland supplied Ukraine with half of its SPGs. The US has supplied Ukraine with 15% of its entire ATACMS stockpile (a missile which is no longer produced and does not yet have a viable alternative due to PRSM still being in low-rate production) as of six months ago. The EU has given up a significant portion of their ammunition to Ukraine. The only thing they did not give is tanks because Ukraine already had a thousand tanks at the start of the war (half of which were modern) which is more tanks than the amount that France, Germany, and the UK have combined.
Most of the Russian military is not in Ukraine per my other comment.
6% is from the public sector. Russia is very much forcing the private sector to also produce and forcing them to take loans.
Which is still not a wartime economy. You are right that Russia is forcing the private sector to pick up the slack. Majority of military spending does not go into the Special Military Operation. The majority of forces in Ukraine are from irregular volunteer formations recruited from regions across Russia. These irregular volunteer formations rely on their local regional government to supply them with weapons and equipment alongside crowdfunding campaigns and donations from organizations like the Popular Front.
This is well shown by the Tuvan volunteers who come from the poorest region in Russia which shows in their equipment:
Here are donations from the Popular Front:
Chechnya was probably affected the most by this war economically speaking as they have recently taken up the burden of training and equipping a large portion of volunteers:
So most of the federal government's military spending (which is still larger than the entirety of Europe's military spending combined when using PPP which is what really matters when talking about militaries) is actually not being used for the SMO but for a large-scale military buildup for future operations. This means regional governments are the ones footing the bill. But even so, they are not at a wartime footing. These regional governments outside of Chechnya are really only providing their soldiers with the bare essentials which really shows in Russia's performance in this war. Like instead of actual military vehicles, soldiers are recieving old bread loafs and other civilian vehicles.
Noone cares for your Russian propaganda here. Go away. Quit your troll farm job and go do something better.
Yes because everything you disagree with is either propaganda or part of a troll farm. Don’t like my data? Find me better ones.
How I love the standard NAFO reply of “muh propaganda!”
Ahah, your "data" is a footage from Russian propaganda tv showing a tank driving on some field, or some people at a free concert listening to a guy singing badly. Me farting in your general direction is a better source of information.
The videos are deliveries, some of said videos are just tanks on trains.
Those are not all the links I have available, just too lazy right now. Might add more later.
Reddit links are ‘data’ now???
I wouldn't waste my time. That's the only reason you're here, to waste our time.
Well they better figure it out real quick, now that they finally woke up. Better late than never.
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