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European leaders holding emergency talks in Brussels have agreed on a massive increase to defence spending, amid a drive to shore up support for Ukraine after Donald Trump halted US military aid and intelligence sharing.

But the show of unity was marred by Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orbán, failing to endorse an EU statement on Ukraine pushing back against Trump’s Russia-friendly negotiating stance.

The 26 other EU leaders, including Orbán’s ally Robert Fico, the Slovakian prime minister, “firmly supported” the statement. “There can be no negotiations on Ukraine without Ukraine,” said the draft statement, a response to Trump’s attempt to sideline Europe and Kyiv.

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[-] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Shore up aid how? With UK’s nonexistent SPGs (they sent basically their entire SPG fleet into Ukraine) and Poland’s SPG fleet that has already been gutted in half from SPG deliveries to Ukraine? Or Germany’s 1 trillion euro aid package proposal to Ukraine which nearly won the horrendous AFD party the election?

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 2 hours ago

I presume by... making things? with the 800 billion euros?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Outrageous. Pish-tosh! Argylbargle!

[-] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

No way dude! But with what industry though?

In all seriousness, Russia was producing 20-30 T-90Ms per month (or 240-360 per year) in 2024 going off of monthly deliveries. The entirety of Europe cannot even match this. The only country I am aware of that can produce this many tanks per month is South Korea and China. This has likely increased since then but due to increased OPSEC, there have been no videos of batches of T-90Ms (or even T-72B3s) being delivered. But missile production has doubled since 2024 so I would not be surprised that tank production has also doubled to 40-60 per month (480-720 per year).

I have been keeping track of T-90M deliveries for a while now:

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It was always around 20-30 per month last year. This means Russia produces more tanks than the amount the entire German military has in a single year. And as I stated, this likely has doubled but it is impossible to verify as OPSEC means we have not seen any deliveries on video for half a year now. Europe can't even produce their own ballistic missiles which have been a game changer in Ukraine as shown by the effectiveness of ATACMS and Iskander-M.

Russia is producing more shells than the entirety of Europe combined who struggles to supply Ukraine with even a million shells (while Russia was producing 3 million per year in 2024).

[-] NotLemming@lemm.ee 2 points 13 minutes ago

Noone cares for your Russian propaganda here. Go away. Quit your troll farm job and go do something better.

[-] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

Yes because everything you disagree with is either propaganda or part of a troll farm. Don’t like my data? Find me better ones.

Yawn

How I love the standard NAFO reply of “muh propaganda!”

[-] ilmagico@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Well they better figure it out real quick, now that they finally woke up. Better late than never.

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