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But DrUgS at The Border!! (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

my assumption is that he wants a guy like that to assist in the operations of a new american run private cartel network, after they have ousted mexican cartels who cant be reasoned with to give up their profits to the US Oligarchs and private contract groups. they get a chance to install their own american run mexican cartel in mexico, and take over their drug trade for private funding operations. it would explain the 3000 troops they sent to the southern boarder, among other "official" reason.

this guy will help them with connecting with private sellers, to private clients, and logistics. im also assuming that this "new silk road" will be heavily monitored under the guise of decentralization and privacy, for use in things like blackmail, and coercion of users. or simply to attack other drug trade networks by undermining their image and pricing.

but what do i know? im just some guy in a bathtub.

[-] Hochiiplox@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

This tracks given his posts the other day about "the US beginning the crypto capital of the world"

It's all about to become some dark enlightenment bullshit

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

I love that out minister Joly flat out told CNN, and I'm paraphrasing, "if we are being honest America is a net exporter of immigrants and drugs to Canada. Don't lie and say this is about drugs or immigrants it isn't. It's about destroying the Canadian economy so you can annex us for everything that makes us one of the most desired countries in the world to live."

Seriously fuck America

[-] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

America is also the number one consumer of drugs worldwide.

But I bet you won't see any of that money flowing to help that side of the problem.

Just more boots to the door and guns in your faces while we take all your shit and auction it off while you're locked up. Its sick.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Oh man, talk about a head fuck. Sending drugs/immigrants to Canada and guns/gangs to Mexico. We(usa) are rightly fucked as a society, over half of us probably feel a weird joy of being such a cluster fuck of a trailerpark neighbor. The shit we prop up, including narcissistic actions being praised, makes me glad that I'm seeing so many countries pushing back on importing more "American culture" and going by their own light.

I think the "seriously fuck america" is a little much and vague. Even if immigrants and drugs from Mexico were previously perceived wrongly (at least in amplitude and hysteria), I never thought "fuck Mexico". I think people are kinda forgetting that even if the coaches have changed, this is still America's playbook. They're not going to play unless they make us pay. We've been targeting smaller countries and doing the same bullshit with a clean smile to the world for decades. Look at the ACA, now everyone HAS to have insurance (doesn't help affordability, and sometimes costs more), and they've tacked on a yearly fine if you don't comply while basically allowing the government to subsidize the insurance ceos.

We're a publicly traded country now though instead of being privately cut-throat. Stock holders want their continued profits and they see bigger gains in bigger countries.

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[-] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 114 points 3 days ago

Fun facts!

85% of people arrested with fentanyl at the border as U.S. citizens.

The vast majority of people arrested here for trafficking children are U.S. citizens (and children are over 3x more likely to be trafficked by an acquaintance or relative than they are a random kidnapper).

"Illegal aliens" commit less crime than natural born U.S. citizens.

Violent immigrants, perverted trans people, and incompetent DEI hires are all moral panics. You hear so much about them because the Republican party has nothing to offer that will make your life safer or easier.

[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

Shut the border down to all Americans until they can control their criminals. They arent sending their best.

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Also the "tremendous amounts" of fentanyl coming in from Canada last year came to about 250 lbs.

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[-] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

They've made a business out of selling panic and fear to the masses. Betraying their own people for money. Never trust a conservative politician or business person.

[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It’s also just missing the point entirely. The US is primarily responsible for ensuring that illegal substances do not cross its borders. The much, much more logical response by the US to this threat would be to increase searches of vehicles crossing the border. Obviously, we would still have to pretend that a drug as compact as fentanyl can in fact be stopped effectively, but in any case securing the border from the US’ side is not Canada’s responsibility.

[-] cowfodder@lemmy.world 107 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Did this stupid mother fucker really refer to the Prime Minister of Canada as "governor"? Can't tell if pushing the 51st state bullshit or he's just that fucking dumb!

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 89 points 3 days ago

He thinks speaking diminutively to people automatically puts him in a position of power over them

It's an insecurity issue common with bullying

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I wish people would start responding by referring to him as "washed up reality TV personality Trump", or even better, "convinced felon Trump"

It's great because unlike "Governor Trudeau", it's actually true

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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 76 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

He has been for a while now, which is actually a violation of the US' nato obligations. But who care anymore, the US is no longer an ally.

Edit: it also violates a ton of border treaties, and half a doze international agreements the US has benefited from for a long time. But just with NATO:

Key points of the treaty

  • The parties agree to settle disputes peacefully
  • The parties agree to refrain from using force in a way that goes against the United Nations' goals
  • The parties agree to consider an attack on one of them as an attack on all of them
  • The parties agree to consult about threats and defense matters
  • The parties agree to safeguard the freedom, common heritage, and civilization of their peoples
  • The parties agree to promote stability and well-being in the North Atlantic area

Threatening Canada violates all of these and then some.

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago

Trudeau should call him Mayor, or even better, "Convicted Rapist and Felon".

[-] null@slrpnk.net 20 points 3 days ago

He's more subtle. He's been calling him just "Donald".

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[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 7 points 3 days ago

It's the new "we'll build a wall, and mexico will pay for it" - a clause so dumb that people will complain about that, unknowingly tugging "normalcy" a step in that direction.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 59 points 3 days ago

All drugs should be legal and regulated.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Decriminalised use/possession, for sure.

But I always think the libertarian "just legalise all the drugs" is just odd.

Regulated? So you mean preventing people from taking really stupid shit? Sounds great sign me up lol

People gotta accept there are trade-offs to living in a society, and one of those is that there's a limit to which we allow each other to get high. Because there are some drugs that make people aggressive, and I personally think these ought to be curtailed where possible. (Again, not a "war on drugs" style curtailment. But distribution, still illegal and criminal)

You wanna take shit like meth? Cool, go out to the woods and never use socialised medicine where workers are at risk from people on such drugs, or just randoms walking down the street.

I don't think taking hard drugs should put you in prison, or even give you a criminal record, but actually legalising the distribution? Nah. Go live in the woods/hills away from everyone else.

[-] s23b@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Because there are some drugs that make people aggressive, and I personally think these ought to be curtailed where possible. (Again, not a "war on drugs" style curtailment. But distribution, still illegal and criminal)

The first such drug that comes to my mind is alcohol. Its distribution was also criminalized in the past, eventually leading to an increase in organized crime.

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[-] nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

holy shit I can't believe I'm agreeing with a .ml user about something

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

Not all .ml are the same 😇

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

True, but none of them can say bitch

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[-] Anivia@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago

As much as I hate Trump, I don't think this is the "gotcha" it is being portraied as by this tweet. Silk Road was one of the best things to happen for the "safer use" movement of all time. The ability to not have to deal with shady street dealers and order from darknet suppliers on a platform that had legitimate reviews and an escrow system was a huge improvement to the safety of drugs users. It meant a much lower risk of contaminated drugs or getting scammed out of your money.

Of course Ross allegedly also attempted to hire a hitman, which is how he got caught, cause the hitman was an undercover agent, so he allegedly is not a good guy regardless of how you think about him helping people get access to cleaner drugs, but that's besides the point the author of the tweet is trying to make

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

People died from overdoses not to mention lots more ruined lives. I get you like the idea of drugs that are safer to order but that does not make it a good thing.

Also lots of child pornography, murder for hire, human trafficking, and all kinds of other shitty things took place. So yeah, not exactly a good thing.

[-] Kahless@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago

Silk Road did not offer child pornography, weapons, people or hitman services. Ross Ulbricht did not hire a hitman to kill his roommate. He was framed by the FBI and the roommate was coerced into helping stage the murder. The roommate later appologized and tried to get Ulbricht out of prison. Don't believe all the propaganda. Drugs are dangerous, but law inforcement is always more dangerous.

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[-] Kahless@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago

Ross Ulbricht's release was a deal with the Libertarians for their endorsement. Silk Road did not offer weapons and he did not hire a criminal to murder anyone. The FBI staged the whole thing. They forced his old roommate to pose as a murder victim. He later appoligized. A pretty messy affair and Ulbricht's release is justified. Even though Trump only did it to gain Libertarian votes.

[-] laserm@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Bad, even really evil people do good stuff sometimes. That's a part of life.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

If any of these worthless politicians actually gave a shit about drug abuse, they would end prohibition and offer basic social services.

Never gonna happen regardless of the politician's brand.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 8 points 2 days ago

All research and successful drug policy shows that treatment should be increased and law enforcement decreased while abolishing mandatory minimum sentences

[-] killingspark@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I will never understand how ruining someones life because they are using drugs is supposed to help them get off of drugs.

Edit: don't get me wrong, it's great that this has been researched, but it seems so obvious.

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[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON

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[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I also want to point out that when whites are addicts, they go after the dealers. When blacks are addicted, they go after the users

[-] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

Shit, Ross is a mfing hero in my eyes. Fuck prohibition.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Fucker tried to murder other people, including the roommates of his employees.

[-] laserm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Then he should have been tried and convicted on that charge. Instead, he was given a sentence that was disproportionate to his charges.

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[-] iiinnnn@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago

Pardoning him was however a good thing, given price gouging regarding medications

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[-] 60d@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

To be clear, he doesn't care about illegals either, except as a talking point to get Murcans fired up.

https://www.newsweek.com/immigrant-deportations-removals-trump-biden-obama-compared-chart-2026835

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago

Worse; you could buy people from the silk road. Wives, children, ~~nanny's~~ slaves... Along with military equipment, drugs ofc, stolen goods, and pretty much anything illegal that has a buyer.

Had a friend that liked buying drugs there, and would send me screenshots of some of the insane ads he found. He was pissed when it got shut down, and moved to a market called 'Agora'.

Broke off that friendship quite a while ago and haven't heard about it since. Not really my scene...

[-] Lowpast@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

False, no human trafficking, cp, or hitmen services were allowed and were promptly removed, except when Ross him self tried to buy one. Obviously people attempted to hide their sales, just like they do in the clearnet, but the site had a policy against many things.

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