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Summary

A YouGov poll in five Western European countries found majorities view Donald Trump as a threat to European peace, with concerns rising after he suspended military aid to Ukraine.

Most respondents oppose Kyiv’s exclusion from U.S.-Russia peace talks and doubt Europe alone could support Ukraine.

Support for increased defense spending remains limited, despite fears that Russia could attack again.

Proposals for European peacekeepers in Ukraine have mixed support. The survey highlights growing skepticism about U.S. commitments to NATO and European security.

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[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Doesn’t the majority of everyone everywhere think this by now?

[-] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 119 points 3 days ago

A majority of Western Europeans also have a better education than the majority of my fellow American citizens.

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[-] index@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 days ago

Many europeans always have thought about USA as a threat to peace. The migrants crisis in europe is a direct result of USA fucking up the middle east for decades.

[-] darkmoon_au@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My British Dad, circa 1988: "America's a strange place, they usually do the right thing, but they're a bit nuts... they love guns."

[-] blurcosp@leminal.space 18 points 3 days ago

And now we have far-right ultranationalistic movements popping up through Europe as a result.

[-] GenXLiberal@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

And we fuck up other places to, lets not sell the US short.

https://youtube.com/shorts/l3gBif0K6cc

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 42 points 3 days ago

Majority of western Europeans are paying attention, survey finds

[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago

Most if us un the US too, probably.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 17 points 3 days ago

Both supporters and opponents.

The supporters want violence. Us opponents see that he is pushing for it.

[-] thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 3 days ago

Objectively he is.

[-] Naevermix@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If US commitment to the NATO nuclear umbrella is questioned, Russia will attempt to capitalize on it.

Threats of nuclear action are considerably more believable when there's no threat of nuclear retaliation. Ukraine would never have been invaded if they still had nuclear weapons.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

A minority of western Europeans are idiots.

[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago

We’ve been saying this in the U.S. since 2016.

[-] darkmoon_au@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Is that the same 'we' that voted him in again?

[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

Obviously I don’t mean them.

[-] ITguru@feddit.nl 18 points 3 days ago

Hi guys, new here on lemmy. Just want to say FKUC Trump!

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

If it was only peace lol.

He's a threat the very survival of the specie.

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

Yet support for increased defense spending is limited. I guess there may be a change in attitudes once the Americans enact tarrifs against the EU and/or formally leave NATO.

[-] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 3 days ago

Most countries have announced increased defense spending with support across the political spectrum and EU defense stocks are one of the few safe havens left during this tariff nonsense. France has offered a nuclear umbrella to its neighbours. Poland is up to 5% GDP on defence. Not sure what you mean by limited support but maybe I misunderstand.

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

I was referring to the survey results.

[-] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

They don't even have to leave NATO formally, just undermine confidence in article 5 enough that it's no longer a deterrent.

[-] ray1992xd@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That is because in countries like The Netherlands, 100 square meters will cost you about €500 000 at the moment. Warming my house on natural gas costs me €10 a day. In the grocery store, the avarage item price is now €3,-. We must have health insurance (good thing!) but if you can't afford it, you have the option to gamble on higher "own risk". That means paying more out of your own pocket. Gasoline is €2 a liter. We also have to reduce CO2 but don't have enough capacity on the grid to support all the green initiatives. Meaning electricity prices go up. Immigrants fleeing from terrible conditions are very welcome here (also, good thing!), but they need to be paid for somehow. Life is expensive and spending more on military means higher taxes or worse services.

Personally I don't have it bad at all and most people still don't, but I can understand why some people see this as a hard pill to swallow.

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Only western Europeans? I would think eastern Europeans are even more terrified of the implications of Trump being an obvious FSB asset.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

They only asked Western Europeans.

[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

I think at this point for majority of the world, this is common sense now.

[-] Septapus@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

You're right damn this is just hitting me. This chain of events has enabled china to take over much of the Pacific islands and other nations they 'claim' are theirs by historical right. The russians will come for the European continent and the usa will make majorly predatory moves on the American continents. Fuck, the entire world has been made unsafe.

[-] darkmoon_au@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Let us know when the eggs fall in price. Then we'll know it was all worth it. Cheers.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

At this point that's like saying the meteor was a "threat" to dinosaurs

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Read that as: Majority of Western Europeans suspect ocean of containing water.

[-] NotLemming@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

No shit Sherlock

[-] Dragomus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

"The great peacemaker" needs big wars so that he can eventually "make" a peace...

[-] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 days ago

You won't have to worry about Trump for long. We abstained in the election and let Trump win, and now the Democrats understand that genocide is wrong and they're working tirelessly to stop Trump. You're welcome.

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