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Technofascists really benefit from certain kinds of information being inaccessible…
Been using 4get for some time now, I don't think a search engine can get better than this
I looked into this a while back and came to the conclusion that the dev didn't seem trustworthy. Also, just looking on the homepage, the images it showed me were a dildo with "4get" stuck on it using a sticky note and a modified manga panel about beating women. Not sure I'd want to use something like that in public.
yeah, the dev seems kinda like a shitposter ngl (although there are some funny pictures in the front page)
However, I configured it as my default search engine, so I never go to the front page. Also, at least is free and open source (AGPL)
startpage. you're welcome.
it's also not us owned or based.
This is my choice
Wait, google does searches now too? Wow they have a service for everything.
Alright should I switch to Lyca or HotBot?
I mean their search results have gone to absolute shit anyway, the AI is probably better at this point.
doubt
searxng
Been using Ecosia for months now. DuckDuckGo and Startpage before that. I'm pretty happy with Ecosia search results, can't complain.
I've tried so many different search engines over the last year to try getting rid of Google and ecosia seems pretty good, also I still use yandex pretty often
I don't need to care. I stopped using Google search months ago.
Ok, but why should I go to Google for ai answers when I can get the same from openai, other models or even local installations without all the ads?
Unfortunately this isn’t about you, but the 90% of people who don’t understand what AI is at all and don’t give a shit where the responses come from as long as “scorpio dream meaning high school teacher truck” and “can you gregnant with cousin?” Give them answers they like
/s to an extent, but here we are
PREGANANANT
Kagi. But you free loaders would have to pay for something.
I was with kagi for a year.
It was fine.
Their CEO is an asshole though. There was that thing where he went a bit nutty over some mild criticism. I don't remember the details.
Anyhoo. Searx is nice for the moment.
I feel like Kagi, after tuning, provides the best results at the moment (even including Google sometimes). You definitely need to tune it though since the default results are not that great. Agree about their CEO. TBH, at this point, I also wish they weren't based in the US.
It's been a few years since I last tried Searx, but I remember the results being pretty bad. Has it gotten better?
The weirdest thing about switching to kagi was learning that the first few results have a good chance of being relevant. I got so used to scrolling down after a search. It was just weird to have the useful results on top. Similarly, learning that search syntax is actually meaningful and respected by the search engine (for the majority of cases).
I love that the search results end. Like, "nah bruv, that's it, and I'm not going to make shit up to get you to click ads"
I'm interested, but a bit reluctant. I find DuckDuckGo quite adequate for most things, except shopping online, something that I have to rely on for certain categories of items. How is Kagi on shopping?
Shopping online locally or just finding certain items? It's not great locally because it doesn't seem to use your location for searches (which is good IMO), but it's usually been fine for me if I'm just looking for something I want to buy. Note that you need to tune the results for them to be good (you can adjust site rankings for yourself).
I've been using Kagi for a bit. If I search for things one can buy, I get results similar to Google.
What have you found lacking in DDG for online shopping?
I don't really use it.
They have a free trial, no cc needed.
Which is EXACTLY why I just moved to using Vivaldi browser and StartPage as a search engine. Fuck these guys.
You could also try ecosia. I’ve been using them for years, and since a few months Vivaldi has a deal with them too.
AI is over hyped and doesn’t need to be shoved in our faces. Ugh.
It’s another tech bubble like the dot com bubble. But at this point, the AI bubble, the crypto bubble, and the capitalism bubble will all crash at the same time as the world economy falls apart and we end up in another global war. I guess the accelerationists that survive will get their wish and see what remains and if it’s the neofuedalist white supremacy utopia they dream of
Sounds cool, can’t wait!
Stick to SEARCH, not making shit up (euphemistically called "hallucinating").
The future is coming and it sure looks like garbage. I have long since left Google behind.
It’s been a long time I use DuckDuckGo as my default search engine for basic stuff (which let’s be honest, more than 80% is just a simple query to find a certain area of some website, like “Firefox download Windows”, “Discord site status”, “Microsoft office pricing” etc.). If I want to search something more related to my own language or recent events in my county, Google is a must, but that’s like 10% of all my search engine usage. I don’t really need Google to know about the other 90%.
Yeah I think most of my searches start with the name of the site I want results from.
I am no longer feeling lucky
Does EVERY axis in life have to be fucked up at the same time?
Can we have one thing that is just doing ok?
Government - fucked.
Education - fucked.
Healthcare - fucked.
Environment - fucked.
Societal and Social Cohesion - fucked.
Wealth Inequality - fucked.
Personal Technological Autonomy - fucked, and under continuous attack.
Technological Enshittification - Running like gangbusters. So really - fucked.
Damn, someone give me some kind of ladder to climb out of this pit of despair.
And yet, resistance seems very weak…
That's weird -- we water our soil with nutrients like "there's no point in voting", "they're all out to get us", "politicians are shit", "nothing changes", "governments are bad".
I wonder why people haven't been motivated to fight. Whenever they express faith in our leaders, or institutions, or have any positivity, we're quick to shut them down. But still.
I'm from India so two more things to add to the list
Air - fucked.
Cleanliness - megafucked.
Every single one of these flows from wealth inequality.
(and reinforces it)
They also flow from corruption (regulatory capture/failure to enforce anti-trust and other consumer-protection law). It's hard to say whether that is itself a cause or result of wealth inequality, though.
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Yup, this was all the motivation I needed to jump ship from Google, fuck those clowns.
Microsoft doesn't want to end up like Google. Fuck that company! One way you can tell is on outlook...which I use with a proper 10' pole on my work computer only. Fuck no, never at home ever ever.... Have you ever received an email on outlook and just saw the title or maybe you read halfway through and got interrupted?.... Where the fuck is it now? Its gone! Sure you could go email by email and try to be your own search engine. But its no use, whatever Tim was talking about with the over pressured valve at the Central boiler, blah blah you should let people know to exit the blah blah, otherwise 3rd degree bur...yeah that shit's gone. Might as well write your own email to finish the story. See, Microsoft doesn't want to be like Google at all. On my 14.9992G full gmail, I was always able to go find out what Amazon offer I got 8 years ago. Look 404! Yeah that's it! 404! With Gemini spying on my every move that's gotta stop. It's gonna try to learn my porn habits. I'm gonna go search for all the wrong porn on purpose.
Is this for human beings, or is it for Google to show their investors to prove that AI is totally going to revolutionize something eventually?
Screw Google either way, I'm not going to use their search engine either way, but this doesn't feel like a product they are genuinely committed to releasing. Maybe I'm wrong, and in that case, screw them even more.
I noticed today that UDM mode for Google is displaying sponsored results now, too...
yeah udm14 getting pretty bad lately. That is why I moved to startpage which is same Google services without AI and sponsored contents
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