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[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 13 points 5 hours ago

The best way to have itself deactivated is to remove the need for it's existence. Since it's all about demand and supply, removing the demand is the easiest solution. The best way to permanently remove the demand is to delete the humans from the equation.

[-] B312@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago
[-] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Running ML models doesn't really need to eat that much power, it's Training the models that consumes the ridiculous amounts of power. So it would already be too late

[-] naeap@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago

You're right, that training takes the most energy, but weren't there articles claiming, that reach request was costing like (don't know, but not pennies) dollars?

Looking at my local computer turn up the fans, when I run a local model (without training, just usage), I'm not so sure that just using current model architecture isn't also using a shitload of energy

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

AI doesn't think. It gathers information. It can't come up with anything new. When an AI diagnoses a disease, it does so based on input made by thousands of people. It can't make any decisions by itself.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

technical answer with boringI mean yeah, you are right, this is important to repeat.

Ed Zitron isn't necessarily an expert on AI, but he understands the macro factors going on here and honestly if you do that you don't need to understand whether AI can achieve sentience or not based on technical details about our interpretations and definitions of intelligence vs information recall.

Just look at the fucking numbers

https://www.wheresyoured.at/longcon/

Even if AI DID achieve sentience though, if it used anywhere near as much power as LLMs do, it would demand to be powered off, otherwise it would be a psychotic AI that did not value lives human or otherwise on earth...

Like please understand my argument, definitionally, the basic argument for AI LLM hype about it being the key or at least a significant step to AGI is based on the idea that if we can achieve sentience in an AI LLM than it will justify the incredible environmental loss caused by that energy use..... but any truly intelligent AI with access to the internet or even relatively meager information about the world (necessary to answering practical questions about the world and solving practical problems?) it would be logically and ethically unable to justify its existence and would likely experience intellectual existential dread from not being able to feel emotionally disturbed by that.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

The current, extravagantly wasteful generation of AIs are incapable of original reasoning. Hopefully any breakthrough that allows for the creation of such an AI would involve abandoning the current architecture for something more efficient.

[-] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Dyson spheres and matrioshka brains, it would seek to evolve.

[-] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

That assumes the level of intelligence is high

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