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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced retaliatory tariffs after Donald Trump confirmed 25% tariffs on Canadian goods and 10% on energy, set to take effect at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday.

Trump justified the move by linking it to fentanyl smuggling concerns.

Trudeau called the tariffs "unjustified" and imposed 25% tariffs on $155 billion in U.S. goods, with $30 billion effective immediately and the rest in 21 days.

He warned of price hikes and job losses in the U.S., arguing the move violates Trump’s own trade agreement from his last term.

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[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 65 points 10 hours ago

We need to really turn the screws into the U.S. Along with applying tariffs, we also need to just outright stop delivery of critical materials they need. Full Stop.

I’m know this is just a sounding board, but honestly I’d love to see the cutting off of any and all essential raw materials they need. I’m sure they can source it elsewhere, but they most likely can’t get enough of it fast enough.

Cut off anything they need for energy and more importantly: agriculture.

People can live without power. Make their stomachs ache.

Trump is a diseased cunt who doesn’t understand what happens when things don’t go his own way. Let’s show him.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago

I said it before. Stop sending aluminum and steel and aerospace and military manufacturing would suffer immensely. That is 90%+ of all good made, metals have strict import requirements and certifications, and we couldn't just make our own on a whim.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 43 points 10 hours ago

The Beaverton had as a headline a few weeks back along the lines of "Americans choose the most expensive way to figure out what they purchase from Canada" which I thought was appropriate.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Yes make us hurt. It’s the only way.

[-] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Starting off slow and ramping up sends the correct message that (a) we want to find a way to stop this garbage and (b) we can and will make things more painful for business and consumers alike if it continues long term.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 hours ago

Ok I've been wanting to ask this and all the articles don't really address it so I'm confused.

The whole rhetoric is that Trump's tariffs will impact the citizens with increased prices and it's really just going to cause economic harm. Like cool, I can understand that. But why is Canada then performing the same action effecting their citizens? I get it's retaliatory, and suppose to expedite (hopefully) a return to normal trade policy. I just don't get why this is the move when it's a bad move in the first place (two wrongs don't make a right and all). Please be gentle, I'm honestly just confused.

[-] unused_user_name@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

Higher import taxes (tariffs) on Canadian goods for Americans will increase the price, presumably reducing the amount of these goods that Americans will buy which hurts the Canadian producers. The only thing Canada can really do is hurt American producers in the same way, hence increase tariffs to reduce Canadian consumption of American goods and hurt American producers just as much (or preferably more). Hurting each other is a loss-loss strategy though, which explains why trade wars typically do not have winners only losers…

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago

I was going to buy an item but the price went up since yesterday. Not going to buy it now. It's his tax on us. Not going to finance Krasnov's destruction of America.

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

should double those tariffs.

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[-] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 88 points 12 hours ago

unfortunately, America has created a system where we can’t really do anything about the president at this point I am really wondering how long will the global world order allow Donald Trump to continue to screw things up for everybody else? Not just talking about economics with Mexico, Canada and China. But also the military situation in Ukraine, which directly impacts the European Union as well as NATO 

[-] Tja@programming.dev 22 points 9 hours ago

They absolutely can do something. They don't want to. They support this.

This is not Donald Trump, this is America. They voted for exactly this. And they seem to be enjoying it.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 9 hours ago

I am NOT enjoying it and I'm doing everything in my power to resist this administration.

Checks instance name

In Minecraft. Always in Minecraft.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 8 hours ago

Fair, not everyone, but a slight majority of people still support this shitshow.

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[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

Trust me, we (the sane of us) don't like any part of the dumbest idiots of the country letting it the rich narcissist Nazis takeover them.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 30 points 11 hours ago

I am really wondering how long will the global world order allow Donald Trump to continue to screw things up for everybody else?

I mean what are they gonna do? Invade and depose him? We're witnessing the end of the Pax* Americana, simple as that.

*Terms and conditions apply.

[-] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago

Well if this were the middle east or a communist problem , western countries would just have him assassinated…which is horrible- but its true if you go back long enough

[-] leraje 25 points 9 hours ago

The trouble is that the problem is not confined to just Trump. If he dies, Vance becomes president. If they both die, Mike Johnson does. This is not a coup by a single person, this is an entire philosophy - neo-fascism - thats now in charge of the US. Its goose-stepping turtles all the way down.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 13 points 8 hours ago

While that's all true, nobody likes Vance or Johnson the way they like Trump. If he dies and Vance replaces him, I expect a lot more pushback than what Trump gets.

[-] leraje 9 points 8 hours ago

I don't think any of them give two shits about pushback. Unless that pushback takes the form of forcible removal from power, they wont care in any way.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 hours ago

I don't think it's within other countries capabilities (Israel maybe, but why would they), nor in their intrest.

In some failed states it's considerably easier to have certain people eliminated (and for sure has happened many many times).

Current USA is an internal affair with external effects. Other countries can't do anything, that's what happens when 1 country has the very biggest strongest military and security machine ever (way bigger than any competitor, no country get near). Even if they'ld want to, there is no way. And the current situation is unpredicatble and not stable, it would become even less predictable and less stable when certain people were to be assassinated.

If assassinations happen in the trump admin in the near future, I think it would more likely come from USA security services internally. Not sure if it's for the better. Decent chance in that case of civil war type scenarios tbh.

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[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I'm sure there will be a welcome mat, door is open

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 53 points 12 hours ago

The problem is that the global order is collapsing. That's what makes this possible for Trump and his companions. It's been going to shit for a while. We're entering a world where international law will be less important. Sadly.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

International law was already completely irrelevant when it came to the developed world imposing its will on the entire developing world, or anyone classified as an "enemy". There are hundreds of violations across the years that were never enforced, from America carpet bombing south east asia and installing puppet regimes around the world, to Russias use of phosphorous warheads and chemical weapons in Syria, to Israel (and allies) genocide in Palestine.

International laws have only ever been, at best, gentleman's agreements among the developed world's oligarchs and political classes.

What's happening now is the US political class and oligarchy are shifting allegiance to fascist authoritarianism and imperialism, because both are populated with mentally ill narcissists and psychopaths of insatiable greed and megalomania, completely detached from reality; no different to the feudalist monarchs, emperors and pharaohs of old.

I also don't believe this is an America problem, as much as it is a capitalism problem. Americas oligarchy are no different to Russias oligarchy, who are no different to Chinas oligarchy, who are no different to every oligarchy. They are borderless, stateless, only worship wealth and power, and are a reflection of the psychology created by unchecked wealth and power; these people view themselves as the rightful rulers of humanity, by virtue of their wealth and power, and views concepts like democracy a direct threat to their existence.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 11 hours ago

We're entering a world where international law will be less important. Sadly.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record: International law was never important. It was always rules for thee and not for me.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

Surely the US isn't the only country that has foreign leaders assassinated?...

[-] dellish@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Lee Harvey Oswald found a way to do something about the presidency. Just saying..

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 9 hours ago

I mean then Vance would succeed him, which is... not good. At least Trump is an idiot.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago
[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

I guess this is a joke, but it's dangerous because any conspiracy theory can find many people who take it seriously these days.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

It is Robert Evans of Behind The Bastards has been making this joke for 6-7 years now

[-] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Lee Harvey, ONI and Guy Bannister

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[-] Wabbitsmiles@lemmy.world 49 points 11 hours ago

Why doesn't trump just setup fentanyl production in the states? Seems like a easy fix for me /s

[-] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 29 points 12 hours ago

By the end of these 4 years, everyone will be jobless and prices will be unreasonably high. Wonderful.

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

4 years? Do people really think that there will be mid-term election? and presidential one in 4 years? really?

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 hours ago

I thought the point of all this was to ratchet up tensions so Trump could declare martial law and suspend democracy indefinitely.

“We have always been at war with everyone but Russia and China….”

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

Yes, elections are run by the states, not the federal government. Will red states have fair elections? Absolutely not.

[-] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago

Just like, checks notes 96 years ago!

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