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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 254 points 5 months ago
[-] avieshek@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

The Left and the Right feels like Feet Guys vs Cannibals chewing on a bunch of toes.

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[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

"What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?"

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[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 136 points 5 months ago

Had kind of a similar conversation with my dad recently. "I'm sorry you feel that way." "Well they're cutting Medicaid, so we'll see how that goes for you."

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago

‘I’m sorry you feel that way.’ He’s sorry you think people should have equal rights?

Your dad doesn’t have a political problem, he has a morality problem.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 months ago

Even the non-apology "apology" is unacceptable!

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[-] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 months ago

Please remind us in four years what happens

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[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 132 points 5 months ago

Tolerance paradoxically demands intolerance of the intolerant.

[-] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 142 points 5 months ago

It was pointed out to me a while back that the paradox of tolerance is only a paradox if you consider tolerance to be a philosophical position.

In fact, we don't treat it like that. We treat it as a social contract, in which context it is no paradox at all to say that if you aren't tolerant then other people aren't obliged to tolerate you in turn

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago

This here - the social contract view needs to be widely adopted

[-] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago

Agreed. Respect for what is essentially the golden rule is the bare minimum to be accepted by a rational society.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The term paradox was used because it comes from the "so much for the tolerant X" instances during mid XXth century. It's the incorrect assumption that tolerance is somehow a foundational principle of some ideology, mainly left, socialist and communist ideology; just because they were protesting intolerant policy and stances from the right. The right stupidly believes that this means that the left advocates for unlimited tolerance of everything as an extension of fundamental freedoms, like free speech and free thought.

This was at a time when the debate on the lawful limits of freedom in democracies was being debated. In comes Karl Popper and produces the formal philosophical formulation of the paradox. He starts at freedom and demonstrates that in order for a free open and peaceful society to exist, then they must be tolerant, but, they must not held tolerance as a tenet, instead being intolerant of any intolerance. It is important as the first philosophical formulation of liberal democratic thinking. It actually distances itself from communism because, according to Popper, communism and even socialism will always end up in bloodshed, violence, and suffering.

The concept of social contract was not unknown to Popper, but it was not necessary for his argument to make sense. For, since Weber, it's understood as a given that wherever humans happen to live in community, some form of social contract will exist. Popper is not concerned with the existence of the contract, but to argue about its content.

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[-] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 34 points 5 months ago

It's not really a paradox when you think about it. In fact, it's absolutely necessary.

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[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 124 points 5 months ago

More often than not, MAGA tend to stab themselves in the back. They just don't have the self-awareness for it.

[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

But they'll be happy about it if it hurts someone else they don't like in the process.

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 26 points 5 months ago

Isn't that the saddest thing? Imagine being motivated by hatred. Feels like such a shitty thing to live for.

[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Imagine having so little to be proud of in your life that you chose to side with the oppressors in order to feel some vague sense of accomplishment.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 26 points 5 months ago

was thinking of saying the knife should be in the back but the artist is right. this is pretty in the front.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

99% of partisan voters do this, unfortunately.

At least, that's the case if you look back at the last eight years. It's a testament to the grip that the rich have on the poor here that anyone still votes Democrat or Republican.

BUT, I agree 100%. If your politics are deliberately harmful to marginalized groups, it's pretty fucked up to make the argument that "it's just politics".

[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

Pretty much every damn thing is political.

"it's just politics" is such an empty statement.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

The upside to Fascism is that it's never back in town for long. You don't have to worry about it becoming the new status quo.

The bad news is, you do absolutely have to fight tooth and nail because although it will take itself out in the end, it will take innocent people with it. The reason we fight is to do three things

  1. Minimize the damage

  2. Make it harder for Fascism to come back

  3. Create a new status quo to replace the one that was so bad that people wanted to do fascism in the first place.

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[-] mspencer712@programming.dev 53 points 5 months ago

I tried to support this artist on Patreon. Heard there were NSFW comics there. Well, yes, but mostly a creepy OnlyFans-esque collection of nearly nude sexy photos of the artist, with frequent calls for payment for explicit nudes.

Only artist Patreon I’ve ever unsubscribed from for content reasons. (I’m married, intended to support an artist, not to gawk at an OnlyFans.) From what I can tell from kemono, she’s still doing it.

I’m genuinely not sure if I’m being too sensitive or if this is genuinely behavior that shouldn’t be supported. Comics like this one are really good. I’m torn.

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 93 points 5 months ago

It is perfectly fine that you don't like the behaviour, but that doesn't mean the behaviour isn't valid.

I also think it is strange, but not something detrimental. You subscribe to her account, you get comics and nudes. I don't see a problem with that, but I can understand if it's problematic for you due to different surrounding circumstances.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 34 points 5 months ago

It's a valid point and complaint that they went to the Patreon page of a comic artist looking for comics, and got something entirely different to what they were looking for.

There's a lot more porn on the Internet than good comic strips.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

You have to pay at a certain tier to get the nudity. If you don't, then you don't get anything explicit.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 18 points 5 months ago

It's detrimental when low-effort, inane, late comics like the above get posted constantly and her rabid, parasocial-brain pay-masturbators proceed to harass any valid criticism.

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[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

She is within her rights, and so are you.

Ironically, this is valid version of the above comic’s invalid application of agreeing to disagree. Neither of you are hurting the other by having differing opinions.

If you haven’t already, you should send a message to the artist voicing your moral support but explaining why you can’t financially support her.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago

I think you're being too sensitive tbh. The artist probably really needs the money if they're doing onlyfans. Just let your partner see the what and why, and there shouldn't be an issue.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 51 points 5 months ago

I seriously had a Right-Wing friend of mine try to tell me that

"The Trans needed some pushback because they were simply demanding too much" Card

Which hurt, especially with a "You need to learn to compromise, we're not asking much. It's not going to tear your arm off to put biologically accurate data onto government documents." Stat Boosting Spell Card he threw down when I pointed out that Trump was ordering people to put M's on Transwomen's documentation

I'd never been more insulted in my life. Bro had no clue he was legitimately saying the modern version of "Look the Government just needs to know your background, wearing that Star of David in public isn't going to get you killed."

Thankfully he was willing to listen when I pointed that goof out to him.... He's still a Right Winger who's now willing to walk back his statements in favor of "Agree to disagree"

I love my friend and I'd stand up if his rights were being violated, I'm just horrified to realize he absolutely will not show me the same decency.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

God, does the "Asking for too much" card drive me fucking crazy.
These darn queers and their desire to walk the streets without the risk of being beaten to death, how dare them!

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago

i used to follow ytubers like that they will listen to reason, but was still "anti-wke this or that" something changed during the pandemic and then went full maga.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ugh, I hate Right Wing Youtubers. You can see Google's political bias on full display with them. I always find it suspicious that non-political youtubers can't say "Kill" in ANY context without it being counted as a swearword on par with the N-Word...

But Right Wingers can say the most hateful shit and are still allowed to have a channel with PragerU platforming LITERAL CHILD ABUSE yet still being allowed to do a show targeted at kids.

There was this DBD Youtuber who was spitting straight facts about the horrible decisions made with the game, and then he moves from his first point (bullshit nerfs that feel so random that it's likely play testing wasn't done with them) to talking about how the game is "Unrealistic" and to that I said

"Okay... it's a dark cartoony game where you play Hide and Seek with Freddy Krueger and the Xenomorph, it 's not meant to be reali.... Ah THERE we go."

Why did I say "THERE we go!" Because he immediately jumps to "Like 1/5 of the cast is canonically gay! But there's only like .0001% of people who are gay in real life"

And I had to point out that "You were cooking... until you got really homophobic." in the comments

He actually responds to me and gets into a shouting match.

He goes on and on about how the character David King was "Clearly intended to be a straight man", because his backstory "Had him be VERY manly!", and that it was an attack on him personally that he was "Changed to be gay"

I calmly told him that the devs can do whatever they want with their characters. I mean yeah if they said "Oh , btw, Laurie Strode's a lesbian", that'd be bad because the job of the guest characters is to show them as they were IN THEIR ORIGINAL FILMS! But.. they didn't make Laurie Strode gay, they made David King, a character Behavior created themselves, gay.

He gave me the same bullshit about "David King's original story had him being manly!"

I pointed out that David King's CURRENT story still had him be manly, and that manly men exist in the gay community (With David being something of what they call a "bear" in the gay community), oh and the big one.. this wasn't some recent out of nowhere Overwatch-style retcon, he'd been hard confirmed as gay VERY early on... So, wasn't sure why he was complaining.

Because I knew that (very common and well-known piece of information), I outted myself to him as "ONE OF THEM!!111", and he said something to me I'll never forget.

That I was one of the "queers" ruining America, who was as he put it "Offended by Everything and Ashamed of Nothing!"

Now that was the most mask off he'd been all conversation.

I simply asked what was it he felt that I had to be ashamed of... Never got an answer, so I can only assume he didn't know himself.

Later I found I was subscribed to him, likely had done so early on in his vid. He was live-streaming killer and complaining about a well-known Youtuber who exposes Toxic Players in the DBD community... The whole stream it was nothing but shitting on this Youtuber for, and get this, defending gay gamers from homophobic bullies instead of "Letting them get what they deserve for shoving it down people's throats."

When I realized this I left the stream, downvoted, and unsubscribed.

I wish him well and hope he changes, but since I know he's unlikely to, deep down I hope he's having a rusty nail shoved up his dickhole and that it gets infected.

I've sadly since learned that the homophobe not only was still at the homophobia game, but had gotten the slogan "Ally to the Community" trending through the Toxic Side of the community as a backhanded way of insulting.... anyone Pro-LGBT affiliated with DBD.

My point is, I just hate people who do nothing but hate and how they that despite being the clear aggressor, seem to believe they're never the ones in the wrong.

Nyway, I should lay down for bed, but before I go I must say

inb4

"If they have a problem with things being shoved down their throats they shouldn't deepthroat so fucking hard."

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[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 5 months ago

This is my attitude whenever someone complains about there being too much 'politics' in everything.

Everything touches politics, but we only notice it when it adversely effects us. The people who take as granted that politics is it's own thing are usually the people who are the most privileged by it.

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[-] margaritox@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

Is the “just because we disagree on politics we can still get along” frame of mind generally a conservative thing? Because on one hand, it makes sense. On the other hand, I find it very difficult, for example, to look past the fact that some conservatives want to stop aid to Ukraine (as a Ukrainian living in the US).

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 32 points 5 months ago

Indeed, many Conservatives are of the "I just ate, so I guess World Hunger is a myth" variety.

Unless something is specifically happening to them personally, it isn't THAT big a deal.

A lack of empathy is a hallmark of the ideology.

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[-] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago

We really need a deadly plague that's easy to vaccinate against.

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[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago

I'll take my downvotes, but while I agree with the sentiment in this particular comic I have no fucking interest in seeing shitty pizzacake and her no-punchline comics or her army of sycophants here on Lemmy.

I will never understand why some of you insist on bringing the garbage we left Reddit to escape over here to Lemmy. Let pizzacake have her tiny window of microcelebrity on reddit and please spare the rest of us this bullshit.

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

"Why can't everyone else just hate the same things I hate!?"

Imagine being this worked up about a webcomic, shitty or otherwise.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

You don't have to be RUDE to me, I just want your abuelos rounded up and deported/ in a prison/ forced labor camp/ disappeared what's the problem here!?

[-] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

My sister has lost several friends when they voted MAGA and showed their true, horror selves. My sister is a hero.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago

Philosophy Tube recently did a great video on exactly this. It's on Nebula for those who subscribe.

[-] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 12 points 5 months ago

This artstyle looks like "what if Control Alt Delete was drawn by someone who had fashion sense and also talent".

I like it.

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