Trump's 'America First' now looks more like 'America Alone'—a gift to Moscow.
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He's never cared about America. It's always been about power and sucking up to dictators.
Well they are not alone, as you said they got Russia.
I gotta say, I did not have "America becomes Russian vassal state" on my bingo card
Should have been your free square.
My free square just says "Trump". Which I suppose is kind of the same thing
Wonder why one war was more important than the other in 2024...
It was crazy to see waves of cops converging on Gaza protesters while college admins are dragged up in front of Congress to be harangued for allowing ISIS to infiltrate their campuses.
I wonder if we'll see Ukrainian protesters get the same treatment.
The russians do not have the same amount of lobbying in the whole country that the israelis do, at least not yet.
I don't know why enabling netanyahu's genocide was a greater priority for the biden administration than Ukraine ever was. Or indeed, anything else for the entirety of his term.
Biden gave Ukraine $120 billion for defense against the invasion.
He gave $18 billion to Israel and $2 billion to Gaza.
Wow, still harping on Biden. I guess the rubles are still flowing, eh comrade?
I mean they still have a point.
Claiming Israel doing it is fine while helping Ukraine was a really wild thing to do.
Though I still don't understand why anyone thought Trump would do anything to stop Israel either.
I don't think anyone claimed what Israel is doing was fine. Even Biden was critical.
When Ukraine surrendered their nuclear weapons the US promised to help protect them from Russia. It was our duty to help. To get the Ukraine funding passed it had to be bundled with assistance for Israel, or Republicans would not have voted for it.
Helping Israel is messed up, but there's probably only a handful of politicians who tried to stop it. Before Trump, it seemed like everyone supported Ukraine. It's such a drastic change in the political climate that blaming Biden for everything Israel is a gross oversimplification and shifting of the blame that rightfully belongs on most of our government.
Before Trump, it seemed like everyone supported Ukraine.
Polling-wise, people weren't much more enthusiastic about sending support to Kyiv than Tel-Aviv. These were both grisly foreign conflicts cheerleaded from the press that had very little purchase in mainstream American circles. If anything, it was Israel that had more universal support, as conservatives had far more opposition to Ukraine aid than liberals had to Israeli aid.
Partisan infighting made matters worse, of course. Liberal news tried to make the American side of these conflicts look "Woke" in order to justify the violence. Both the IDF and the Azov Battalions were apparently fighting for LGBTQ rights in their respective territories, I guess? The conservative response on this was split the partisan reaction. Republicans declared that, aktuly, no by fighting Muslims the IDF was Based Trad and therefore good. Meanwhile, they accepted the Woke Ukrainians narrative uncritically and decided this meant Russia must have been the good guys. Add in how pro-Gaza protests were from the stupid hippie university students and their liberal arts (re: foreign language / poli-sci / international studies) professorships with a certain Black Lives Matter vibe to the opposition, and Republicans double-extra hated them.
But any conversation about these wars was so awash in domestic propaganda and spin. Support was always predicated on whether you though Zelenskyy or Netanyahu was an MSNBC Liberal or a FOX News Conservative. The local politics of these conflicts - ideas of national sovereignty versus international security, international relations around control of minerals and agricultural goods, civil rights for local minority groups - was never a serious part of the conversation.
Oh honey, find a new song.
People are so easily manipulated into supporting war.
Ask yourself who the fuck started the war... And on whose land is Russian military on?
I don't support war. I support Russia getting the fuck out of Ukraine. And if that requires force, then I support it. Russia can leave immediately if they want.
The US started the war.
If Russia just stopped invading a sovereign nation, there would be no war.
If the US dissolved NATO there would be no war
And there'd be no Europe.
Russia invaded Ukraine.
Russia may have fired the first bullet, but the US started it
It's remarkable how many people can't read rules around here specifically rule number 3
Yes, the support for Putins war is definitely a very bizarre thing.
Not supporting war, supporting winning - as opposed to losing. Support for war is irrelevant once the invasion begins.
The US can't stop the war. Ukraine can't even stop the war. The Ukrainian government could just give up, but then the occupation begins, and that's the hard part. The people of Ukraine aren't going to just roll over and play nice while Russia dismantles their society. They will fight back, and it will be bloodier for both sides than the clash of armies was.
Anyways, that's way more of an answer than your dumb ass comment deserves.
This coming from the same people that whitewashed the entire Bush administration...
The best as hominem you can come up with is just a wild guess that I belong to a group that I don't?
Nice argument.
You, for example.
Ok Putin
Who is supporting it?
I know. They all are great poets defending concepts, but so few soldiers fighting for actual people.
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