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[-] rainerloeten@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago
[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago

Getting rid of plastic straws, but not cups and lids was such a stupid thing. There are substitutes for cups, but they cost more, so they weren't a good option for greenwashing.

If you're already minimizing seafood intake because of the lead content, you're already minimizing your personal impact of fishing net use. What we need to do is legislate the use of hemp nets. Hemp was the primary net maternal before the oil industry put their weight behind making hemp illegal under the guise of "The War On Drugs!" and made plastic/nylon nets the default.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, one can just "drink like a real adult", like the ones said to me that now want the plastic straws back...

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

That would be ideal, but each person has limited time and attention. Advocate for both, but put your efforts into figuring out how to change the thing with the larger impact.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

to be fair that was a regulator decision. they seem to have went for the low hanging fruit of something relatively easy to replace without impacting the bottom line.

not gonna save the world by a long shot, but its a better than nothing sort of deal im surprised they even bothered with in the first place.

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

My conspiracy theory is it was chosen to deliberately harm the optics of environmentalists. Something with minimal useful impact and maximum inconvenience would turn people against the whole idea of environmentally friendly alternatives.

[-] syreus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

I see a lot of people who share your opinion. I used to work rehabbing sea turtles and EVERY turtle we received alive or dead had straws/bags in their gut. It might not seem super important but those products look more like jellyfish and turtles have poor eyesight.

The nets commercial fishing boats make the most plastic waste by a lot but declining a plastic straw and bringing your own bag to shop WILL save a life.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

thats not something i do not shy away from. those fucks are that manipulative.

I think it's also a product of the guy on the left likely has never used and will never use a fishing net. It's kind of like the tarrifs on Canada. America wasn't ever complaining that drugs were being trafficked over the the Canadian border but that is the reason they are giving for the tarrifs. The truth I see is one of the highest imports from Canada to the U.S. is Aluminum. Coke already stated if Aluminum costs go up, they will simply make more of their products in plastic bottles instead to keep their costs down. Those plastic bottles are made from petroleum which funds much of the GOP's campaigns. He is simply paying back oil executives by ensuring aluminum prices rise. Cokes profits stay the same, Oil companies profits go up. Where does the money come from? Working class Americans

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 16 hours ago

As much as I'd like a valid reason to shit on the Republican government (and there are many), this is not one of them.

Borders arw closing because globalization is declining world-wide. That has to do with reduced growth and progress, and is not due to the whims of a politician. The borders have been closed before the 20th century; what makes you believe that "borders open" is an invariable and ultimate truth? If that were really so, why weren't global borders so open before the 20th century?

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[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 42 points 1 day ago

I am all for minimizing/eliminating single use plastics. But when i get served a milkshake in a plastic mug, with a plastic lid, and a plastic spoon, but a paper straw because of "save the sea"...

i just wish we used our brains more.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

What if dispenser machines had a pay by volume model? You bring your own thing, they fill it, and charge you by how much you use. Would probably need something added to measure flow and set prices, but it's not like a McDonalds built in the 70s is still using exactly the same machines they were back then.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Could just do it by weight. Put vessel under nozzle. Zero scale, and hold till weight determined for sale, hand to customer. Could likely even have software do it.

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[-] cybersin@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Gas pump style soda fountains would be absolutely hilarious. Truly the peak of american culture.

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Just stop eating fish.

No need for nets.

[-] aeternum 21 points 1 day ago

stop eating all animals tbh.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Checked the username, can confirm. Very annoying.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago

If you call that one comment "very annoying" you need to get more used to reading opinions you don't agree with. That was the shortest, least preachy thing ever.

[-] easily3667@lemmus.org 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Are you...ok? Do you really not understand that this was a polite wink at the other person's username?

Being a programmer isn't an excuse for having zero concept of normal conversation.

[-] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Actually you are desensitized to manic behaviour. they're the one behaving like a maniac. You got triggered by a single comment so much you had to go and lookup a persons' history. Are you intentionally looking for a fight just because there are crazy vegans out there? This person was reasonable and did suggest something that is true. We can give up eating meat. You can disagree.. but sheesh? stalking their profile?

edit: noticed you are not the original commenter. I meant the person who replied to parent comment, not you.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 18 hours ago

In the same way I believe they made an incredibly unnecessary reference to being an "annoying vegan" on a comment utterly unannoying, I believe you've made a really stereotypical reference to my profession on something totally unrelated. Yes. I am okay. Are you?

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[-] TapatioOnEverythin@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

No, that would inconvenience me. I would prefer to virtue signal. /s

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 1 day ago

The worst thing about paper straws is seeing it poked through a plastic lid.

[-] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Noticed the same thing, how can one be concerned about the plastic straws but not the cups? I almost thought that was the joke.

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[-] Wav_function@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[-] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 15 hours ago

nets serving their purpose long after EOL, except noone is being served.

I wish modern day electronics did as well and they could serve someone.

[-] Obelix@feddit.org 163 points 2 days ago

Just FYI:

Single-use plastic products are used once, or for a short period of time, before being thrown away. Under the EU’s rules on single-use plastics, the EU is tackling the 10 single-use plastic items most commonly found on Europe’s beaches and is promoting sustainable alternatives. The 10 items are

Cotton bud sticks 
Cutlery, plates, straws and stirrers 
Balloons and sticks for balloons 
Food containers 
Cups for beverages 
Beverage containers 
Cigarette butts 
Plastic bags 
Packets and wrappers 
Wet wipes and sanitary items 

https://commission.europa.eu/news/less-plastic-waste-means-cleaner-beaches-2024-08-14_en

So yeah, nets are bad, but straws, plastic bags, cigarettes and packages are also a problem.

[-] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

This is a list of end-consumer items put together by a government body beholden to fishing and other industries. And it’s not even about pollution levels, it’s specifically about beach pollution. Plastic lids on cartons of heavy cream are “also a problem” if we focus only on reducing plastic waste in the kitchen, but implying it’s even relevant compared to industrial plastic waste is disingenuous

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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 88 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Plastic Recycling is Largely A Myth.

The world produces an average of 430 million metric tons of plastic each year. The United States alone produces tens of millions of tons of plastic waste annually. Yet on average, only about 5 to 6 percent of plastic in the U.S. is recycled.

Basically, the vast majority of plastic either literally cannot be recycled, at all, or would be astoundingly expensive to properly seperate according to it's different types and run through the recycling process.

... So, in most cases, it isn't, and just ends up in a landfill or being directly dumped into nature.

Oil companies have known this for decades, and, as with other issues surrounding pollution ... they've promoted anything that makes an individual feel guilty when they know that even if all individuals followed the suggested course of action, it would have a negligible impact.

[-] aeternum 15 points 1 day ago

Oil companies have known this for decades,

fun fact: BP created the carbon footprint to turn the guilt onto the end consumers, and away from them.

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