I see your 5 eyes and raise you confiscation of all UK Trump/Musk assets to pay for the Ukraine war, as they are now both obviously Russian Oligarchs.
No no no. Musk - yes, no need to fool around there. But trump's assets need to be seized under the "Making everything super bigly again" act of 2025 wherein assets are moved under the control of the government to increase their value and pay out 100x their assessed worth instantly.
Just, ah, just sign here, sir.
Careful. Last time Australia threatened to deny America access to our intelligence apparatus they did a coup and took down our government
Fortunately/unfortunately for us the CIA is in the middle of their own coup and probably doesn’t have time for meddling right now
Thank you. I had no clue about this meddling. It's worth noting that M16 was involved as well, and the coup was conducted using archaic British monarchy laws.
There are circumstantial reasons to suspect MI6 (N.B.: Military Intelligence. Not the number 16.), and the Queen's involvement certainly makes it possible. But there isn't actually strong evidence that they were involved, and there's a much less clear motive for it. (Some general motive in terms of Australia moving to the left, but not the specific motive of the threat to shut down a CIA-run facility in Pine Gap.)
By contrast, we now know that the Governor General (the Queen's official representative in Australia) at the time was referred to as "our man" by the CIA and he involved with organisations that we now know were CIA funded. The CIA also had their "coupmaster" (nicknamed for his known involvement in other coups) appointed as Ambassador to Australia.
Thanks for the extra info. Seems highly likely. Also yeah I know it's MI6, I swear I typed that. I'm gonna blame autocorrect 😤
Maybe we could group together with other countries in the same continent as us and grow stronger bonds with them. You could even make it easier for trade to go between such countries by sharing some common laws amongst one another. Another wild idea is that if some countries are struggling to get people to work on certain industries, we could make it easier for people within this group to work between different countries.
Could call it the Group of Europe or something similar.
axis powers would be more accurate
Did you learn history in bizarro world?
It was a joke...mostly.
I'm well aware none of them were in that alliance.
OTOH they are pretty much near fascist.
Axis of evil is more fitting, atlhough it's what they use to demonise countries they don't like.
In the darkest timeline, the US, Russia, and China will be the new axis.
Like Kissinger said: "America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests"
The other 2 powers know better than to trust the snake so that will never happen.
China, sure, ok. Russia needs a powerful friend after they've shown themselves to be a paper tiger, and used half their military to fail in taking a fairly poor european country. They remain a pariah, I'm not even going to count North Korea. So that leaves the US.
I don't think you got that right.
Russia has a high level of autarchy.
Even then, one of the effects of the 'sanctions' is they have gotten a mutually beneficial relationship with China.
While being a poor and corrupt country, the amount of military gear they had before the war (with Russia not the one in the east) was massive.
No European country had more tanks than them.
Among the first in everything except for naval stuff.
Also their huge military 600000 and more reserves (3x UK or France) got nato training and equipment.
With all the weapons NATO kept sending, foreign mercs ("volunteers") and all the sanctions they tried I would say NATO is the paper tiger.
They can't even keep up with arms production.
Also Russia not a pariah. It is about 50 countries of about 200 that 'sanctions' them.
Plenty of them tiny European ones,
The rest of the world doesn't care, the EU or US leaders can keep calling themselves 'the international community' or 'the free world' all they want They're 10% of the world and their weight is less and less in the new world. And that will only get worse.
Russia grows in GDP, Europe suffers because of it.
I assume that since you use 'paper tiger' and parrot other western media clichés you have consumed too much MSM and believe their BS.
It took them a long time to even acknowledge they weren't going to beat the Russians.
All the wishful thinking and cope isn't going to change reality.
American here - please leave, for everyone’s sake. America as we have all known her is dead.
Why not kick the US out of 5 eyes.
Because the intelligence sharing network would instantly gain the nickname 'Speccy'.
I would think it mostly uses their infrastructure.
You're right but it would be enormously complex. We'd actually have to set up a new, separate system, first, then leave, and do that without upsetting a notoriously thin-skinned sociopath, who would still, during the process, have all our secrets.
I disagree - everything we send goes to Moscow. Everything we get comes from Moscow. There is no value for us. There's nothing to lose by leaving.
I'm afraid there is, because Trump's vindictiveness won't stop with intelligence! Tariffs would be just the start.
Then he's already an aggressor. It s time to stand up bullies and fascists.
Yes. Again, I did start my comment with 'You're right'. But it's also the case that what you - and I - are advocating for would, in the short term, be a boon to terrorism and organised crime, and may well have knock on effects for the economy, too.
My point is not that we shouldn't do it, but that it would have massive, unpredictable consequences!
Wow, this is like the country level of justifying staying with an abuser. If the USA is unreliable and insecure, because of trumps, but more because the American people voted him in and their government sees fit not to prevent the kind of issues he's causing. Then it's better to leave and face consequences, and retaliate appropriately now, than suffer and still face those same consequences later.
No, it isn't, because the first thing I said was:
You’re right
And the rest of my comment simply pointed out that it would be complex and risky - which is true.
Yes, but you’re discounting the fact that all intelligence is shared in the mean time. All large intergovernmental organisations are complex. The USA is likely compromised. Sharing data with them would undermine the new entity.
LOL really? The 5 asses shouldn't even exist.
The US and 4 of its biggest bootlickers.
What are you going to do with the ex-colonial EU has-beens that think they still are relevant?
More of the same BS?
Are you going to support the Pisraeli genociders all on your own, create your own regime change in some poor country to steal resources?
You're all cancer to the world and nothing pleases me more than seeing the biggest bully country destroying itself and his poodles in a panic.
5 asses
Pisraeli
mate you have a point but you sound like a twelve year old
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