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submitted 5 months ago by intelisense@lemm.ee to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk

The shitshow in the Whitehouse yesterday really brought it to light - the U.S. can no longer be trusted with our secrets. Its time to leave 5 eyes. I would create a new intelligence sharing union with the other 3 members, on condition that they also leave. Inviting France and other EU states might also make sense.

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[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

axis powers would be more accurate

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

Did you learn history in bizarro world?

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It was a joke...mostly.
I'm well aware none of them were in that alliance.
OTOH they are pretty much near fascist.
Axis of evil is more fitting, atlhough it's what they use to demonise countries they don't like.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

In the darkest timeline, the US, Russia, and China will be the new axis.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Like Kissinger said: "America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests"
The other 2 powers know better than to trust the snake so that will never happen.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

China, sure, ok. Russia needs a powerful friend after they've shown themselves to be a paper tiger, and used half their military to fail in taking a fairly poor european country. They remain a pariah, I'm not even going to count North Korea. So that leaves the US.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I don't think you got that right.
Russia has a high level of autarchy.
Even then, one of the effects of the 'sanctions' is they have gotten a mutually beneficial relationship with China.

While being a poor and corrupt country, the amount of military gear they had before the war (with Russia not the one in the east) was massive.
No European country had more tanks than them.
Among the first in everything except for naval stuff.
Also their huge military 600000 and more reserves (3x UK or France) got nato training and equipment.
With all the weapons NATO kept sending, foreign mercs ("volunteers") and all the sanctions they tried I would say NATO is the paper tiger.
They can't even keep up with arms production.
Also Russia not a pariah. It is about 50 countries of about 200 that 'sanctions' them.
Plenty of them tiny European ones,
The rest of the world doesn't care, the EU or US leaders can keep calling themselves 'the international community' or 'the free world' all they want They're 10% of the world and their weight is less and less in the new world. And that will only get worse.
Russia grows in GDP, Europe suffers because of it.
I assume that since you use 'paper tiger' and parrot other western media clichés you have consumed too much MSM and believe their BS.
It took them a long time to even acknowledge they weren't going to beat the Russians.
All the wishful thinking and cope isn't going to change reality.

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