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Zelensky ordered to leave White House without signing minerals deal after Oval Office clash with Trump (kyivindependent.com)

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[-] BarrelRollNebula@sopuli.xyz 163 points 5 months ago

History being made. The US showed its incapability to negotiate and discuss. What a shitshow.

Also Zelensky is an absolute terachad.

[+] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 109 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago

I am literally jealous that Ukraine has a strong backboned leader who doesn't lose his moral compass and won't be pushed around.

Meanwhile, we get a leader so weak that he looks over paperwork drafted by himself 6 years ago, calls it a disgrace, and says whomever drafted it should be ashamed. Not remembering it's HIS paperwork from his 1st term!

Now granted, I'm not jealous of the war with Russia. My heart goes out to every Ukrainian. I just wish Biden would have had the spine to send troops in, and I'm completely embarassed on every level that HE represents my country/me.

And obviously putin is just a shithead.

[-] ladicius@lemmy.world 108 points 5 months ago

Never forget: Ruzzia could end this shit war in a second by simply returning to their shit country.

Does trump push them to do so? No. Not the slightest. Instead he bullies the victim. He is a ruzzian azzhole. That's simply it.

[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 98 points 5 months ago

Trump is an absolute spoiled brat. When things don't go his way, he yells, name calls and throws people out. This is the leader of the free world, being manoeuvred by his Russian masters.

[-] colonelp4nic@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

Former President of the free world. imo, that title now rests with Ursula von der Leyen

[-] FundMECFSResearch 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The west may be the “freest” part of the world, but I don’t buy into the “free world” propaganda bullshit. There is so much heirarchy and oppression in our “liberal democracies”, sure, it’s far better than the authoritarian regimes in other places, but IMO, “free world” is a stretch.

Now that doesn’t take away from the fact maintaining Ukraine’s “freer” political system over a neofacist imperialist Putin is an absolute necessity to fight for the right of Ukrainians and their right to self determination.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Free world means democracy, and democracy is not bullshit. Name any authoritarian regime that is even close to the freedom and quality of life of an average functioning or even a flawed democracy.

sure, it’s far better than the authoritarian regimes in other places

So you are buying into it anyway??? You sure changed your mind quickly.

Is it perfect? No.
Do we have something that is proven to be better? No.
The only thing better than democracy, is if the democracy can be improved.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 70 points 5 months ago

At this point I think a clean break from the US is probably one of the best outcomes. Don't give these degenerate cretins anything, they will use whatever position they have to crowbar in more and more exploitation until they have everything. No calls, no visits, no deals. Make us a pariah.

[-] Shawdow194@fedia.io 51 points 5 months ago

Zelensky asked Vance if he'd been to Ukraine himself to see the problems the country faced. "I've been... I've actually seen and watched the stories," Vance said. At one point when Zelensky began to respond, Trump said: "You've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble. You're not winning this." "We are staying, Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong. From the very beginning of the war, we've been alone. And we are thankful. I said thanks in this Cabinet," Zelensky responded. "You are not in a good position. You don't have the right cards right now," Trump said. "I'm not playing cards," Zelensky responded.

https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-trump-get-into-heated-argument-during-live-conference/

[-] meliante@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

Fuck the USA! There, I said it!

Fuck the whole country, the people that voted for that fucking bully and fuck the people that didn't vote for him but let this happen!

Fuck you all!!

[-] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

I'm starting to get the feeling that world leaders are starting to learn how to play trump like a fiddle. Macron with his sexy french accent, starmer pulling out the kings invite, and zelensky making trump pull out of the stupid deal by using the press against him, then having trump kick him out.