Yeah, and the EU should immediately step up, and triplicate support for Ukraine.

Any deal with Trump is no deal at all. He's the kind of guy that, if you give an inch, starts waving his hands around about how you stole 16 inches from him, and how you must be thrown in a hole somewhere.

Granting him anything is telling him that you are weak and ripe to be exploited.

Yes. USA already knows what its going to do. A hypothetical trade agreement isn't going to change the decision, so Ukraine should make exactly zero concessions in pursuit of influencing a decision which has already been made.

its hard to believe peopel are on trumps side. also hard to believe they gave zelensky shit for not wearing a suit for some reason. while must walks around in a hat and T shirt. the maga double standard is fucking crazy.

Most of us want the shithead gone just as bad as you do, but too many dumbshits decided they'd rather not stop him because the alternative wasn't perfect. I hate it here.

I'm an American and I'm upvoting this. After 2016, I thought that there were some misguided people who didn't realize what they were doing, but that the first Trump term would push the pendulum hard the other direction. I felt a little validated when Biden won in 2020, but it wasn't as one sided as I'd hoped. But Trump winning decisively in 2024 tells me that everyone knew and did it anyway. People are getting what they want: rampant racism, sexism, and global bullying.

So yes, we suck, and no one should trust us as a country, regardless of the fact that there are many of us who knew how catastrophic another Trump term would be.

Zelensky deserves every award there is for being able to keep his cool like that. I certainly wouldn't have been able to.

Dude... I am saying this from the most unobjective place I can possibly manage. That was was of the most difficult and annoying things I've watched in a very long time. It honestly felt like watching a rational adult deal with his children complaining they can't have a sleepover or something.

I am shocked that A) the White House wanted that embarrassment broadcast and B) zelensky actually remained remarkably calm.

Man what annoying people to talk with lol I'm trying so hard to see this from a different perspective but I can't even fathom how that could be seen as anything other than rude and embarrassing.

"You haven't even thanked us once" lmao

Even worse, look at this bullshit: https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-844166

Israel is lobbying the United States to keep Syria weak and decentralized, including by letting Russia keep its military bases there to counter Turkey's growing influence in the country, four sources familiar with the efforts said.

Republican positions don’t need ideological consistency. They just need to agree with Supreme Leader.

Not necessarily monsters (actually yeah they are), but he has a 40 year history of being compromised and owned by Soviet and Russian oligarchs. I'm reading "American Kompromat" now and it couldn't be clearer. It's not even hidden or anything. The Russians really just, won the Cold War. They did it, they toppled the US. Good job for them.

Yea, that is what trump is: weaponized reality tv for rubes. No competence, just circus and mayhem.

It exploits fatal vulnerabilities in education, democracy and 24h-~~journalism~~news cycle.

I sure as hell hope we don't make our support contingent on securing mineral rights from Ukraine while they're over a barrel.

America is squarely in an age of decline now. Our allies will start moving on without us. We'll start being left out of all sorts of deals/agreements. Our global power will decline. The future is going to another country. Probably China.

All because dumbfuck conservatives care more about owning the libs than voting responsibly.

The "respect" and "you should be thankful" comments reminded me of that old (I think Tumblr) post:

Sometimes people use "respect" to mean "treating someone like a person" and sometimes they use "respect" to mean "treating someone like an authority".

and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say "if you won't respect me, I won't respect you" and they mean "if you won't treat me like an authority, I won't treat you like a person."

and they think they're being fair, but they aren't, and it's not okay.

Holy fucking shit Zelenskyy needs the peace prize now for not slapping that geriatric blowhard to the floor. What the actual fuck.