So the whole "we encrypt your life" thing is pretty nice. But in reality look at what you're actually doing... You have super secure encrypted email to do what? Send unencrypted emails to your friends...

It makes no sense to me... Like, you need an encrypted calendar? Why? What are you getting with encryption that you can't get with using a VPN to connect to your local network and access a self-hosted calendar. In what was is that less secure?

Drive? Sure. VPN? Sure. Password manager? Sure. Documents? Sure. I see the value in having H/A for services like this, but all of that can be self-hosted on an rPi in your basement with a rProxy and a domain.

I honestly don't see the big deal with people hating on proton. It's still open source it's still encrypted and doesn't mine your data that seams to check most of the boxes for me. The only problem I had with it was the default main client which shows upgrades to go unlimited all the time but I just use Thunderbird now.

I currently self-host NextCloud and run TailScale to access my home network and use as an exit node for a secure connection when I'm out and about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What assurances do you have they won’t go full proton in the future?

Absolutely none. That applies to all services that exist now or in the future. The only way around that is self-hosting but that path has its own issues including a very steep learning curve if you want to be secure as well as private. Maybe this could be a longer term project to work towards?

For services:

• Mail - Mailbox.org seems the best option right now
• Calendar - don't know.
• Drive - either Cryptomator used with literally any service or a dedicated service like Filen
• VPN - Mullvad
• Password Manager - Bitwarden
• Documents - I just use LibreOffice offline or CryptPad occasionally if I'm collabing with someone.

In truth none of these are perfect. Privacy has got a lot harder recently as Proton and StartMail/StartPage have politically shit the bed and the UK seems determined to kill encryption which means I have to avoid really good services like IceDrive just because they're in the UK.

EDIT: Calendars. Mailbox.org's included one works fine. You can sync using CalDAV. The process for Thunderbird (desktop) is here.

The process for mobile is a little more complicated. First you need Davx5 to actually get the data, but thats all that app does. It's not a Calendar app. It does work with the native Android Calendar but I used FossifyCalendar.

So install both of those then login to your Mailbox account in a browser and create a Calendar (or use an existing one). Get its unique URL by looking under the heading 'My Calendars', clicking the three bars icon, click 'Properties' and you can then copy your CalDAV URL.

On your Android device open Davx5, tap the plus icon then specify 'login with URL and username' tap 'continue' then paste in the URL you copied earlier, your email address and your email account password, tap 'login' and that should work.

Now, switch to your Calendar app. I used Fossify Calendar so if you are too, open that up, go to Settings, scroll down to the CALDAV section and turn on CalDAV sync. It might switch to your new Mailbox calendar now, but if it doesn't, tap 'Manage synced calendars' and activate it there.

Tuta is a great german alternative with e-mail and calendar. For Drive there is many options but I don't feel recommanding one now For VPN there is Mullvad, IVPN and NymVPN(beta) For Password Manager there is BitWarden or any popular KeePass clients but sync is mainly on you. For Documents there is CryptPad

Self host email and nextcloud. Keepass for pw manager. I use davx5 and fossify calendar for mobile calendar. Nextcloud mobile just manages your files and doesn't have the other Nextcloud apps.

Idc about Proton either way though. Imo if proton was fine for you before then it's fine for you now. I just prefer to have control over my own services.

I remember when the Chick-fil-A CEO got a lot of flack. While I disagree with him, I still eat at CFA. Until I feel like the quality of the service is or will be compromised, I do not plan on migrating off of Proton.

The whole universe

There are no viable package solutions, that’s the thing. If you want to make sure your service supplier shares your values, there’s nothing but self-hosting left.

As others have said no all-in-one solution, but Privacy Guides has good recommendations for each use case

Tuta for mail & calendar, CryptPad for cloud docs and spreadsheets, Mullvad for VPN, plus a few other random things like Disroot which offers email and some other services. There’s some overlap and duplication but I don’t want to keep all my shit in one place any more. The Tuta app is blocky but acceptable. Everything else I only view in browsers.

Tuta -- https://tuta.com/

Includes mail and calendar and contacts. No files, or password management. But worth a look, if you want an encrypted solution and you're OK with using their client apps. I do, and I am and it's great, IMO.

Their blogs say they're pro-privacy, and anti-BS, if you believe them: https://tuta.com/blog

disroot

Tuta will show you ads in your mailbox, don't fall for it.

Proton's probably the best mail.

Calendar: paper

Documents: cryptpad

mailbox.org but i dont put all my eggs in one basket. I only mailbox for mail.

Honestly you could easily selfhost all of that except mail and maybe a VPN.

Baikal for calendar. Vaultwarden for passwords.

ENTE for photo storage: https://ente.io/

Crypt.ee is also an option.

Have a look at: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/

Crypt.ee looks like a solid option to replace proton drive and docs(only for solo use) if you don't mind their UI/UX. It also gives me confidence in them when I read their FAQ/Privacy policy and listen to the podcasts episodes the CEO has been intertwined in.

Podcast episodes

https://neat.tube/videos/watch/cf2d43d7-56ab-42d6-82af-a0375ab7f8ca or on odysee https://odysee.com/@techlore:3/developing-privacy-tools-with-john-ozbay:3

https://neat.tube/videos/watch/2d5e2d92-f440-498b-ad1c-c2fa3d3c720b or on odysee https://odysee.com/@techlore:3/how-secure-is-big-tech-other-digital:0

https://neat.tube/videos/watch/4a279d2f-dbf3-4cb9-b5e0-377950dd702f or on odysee https://odysee.com/@techlore:3/privacy-dilemmas-education%2C-toxicity%2C:c

It does not offer all the options from proton but I bought my own domain from OVH provider (France). Can configure email addresses in their admin user interface. I have one main account that I do not disclose. So when I need to create an account somewhere, I just go to OVH web interface and create a new alias for my main email.

The day OVH goes dark, I’ll just have to move my domain somewhere else.

Mail and calendar I'm still trying to figure out. VPN you don't need as long as you use HTTPS everywhere.

password manager

KeePassXC + KeePassDX

documents

Collabora Office + LibreOffice

What are the pros and cons relative to proton?

Pros: free, open source, and 100% offline with no intermediary company. Your file security is entirely in your own hands.

Cons: you must devise your own cross-device sync system. I use Syncthing + Syncthing-Fork.

What are the mobile apps like?

Collabora is currently just bad lol. It's best reserved for really simple edits, if not just for viewing, with all major changes made on a desktop/laptop computer. KeePassDX isn't terrible but it can't view all the fields that the KeePassXC desktop platform can, and getting it to take PIN instead of password for vault-unlocking is really convoluted (although you'd only have to do it once).

What assurances do you have they won't go full proton in the future?

They're all open-source so anyone dissatisfied with the direction that the maintainers go in can fork them at any time.

Custom domain + migadu.com

I like fastmail

Things I have changed to or plan to

Tutamail for e-mail and calendar

Plan to change Filen for cloud services

F-secure's Freedome for VPN

For the rest I'm looking for good solutions as well and also opinions on Filen or if there's other alternatives that might be better

Incoming mail: my own server and my own domain (Postfix). Sufficient to receive confirmation mails and notifications.

Outgoing mail: no good/reliable solution yet. I have to send personal e-mail very very rarely.

Calendar: Tasks.org app, used offline (not synced).

Drive: 1TB external HDDs. GPG encrypted backups of important stuff are uploaded regularly to one of the VPSes I have.

VPN: Tor

Password manager: KeepassXC (with backups at 3 places).

Documents: Stored on computer, important ones are backed up. Confidential ones are stored on an encrypted LUKS volume which I only mount when I need something.

In general things I need on the go (e.g Calendar) is on my phone, the rest is at home at my computer. If I need to move data between devices I simply use USB drives. I don't need no cloud sync of anything.