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[-] don@lemm.ee 241 points 2 months ago

We commit no crimes when we save our country.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 135 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you're bored. I'm drunk and will tell you stuff!

The city of Lake Oswego, where this CEO lives in Oregon, gets it's name from... A big lake. Called Lake Oswego.

Now, Oregon has some fun and cool laws that are fun and cool, like every "navigable waterway" in Oregon, since statehood, must have public access. So for example all of the coastline in Oregon is open to the public, even though it's windy, cold, and miserable 70% of the year. But in the summer, there's tons of space to find quiet, beautiful peace.

Lake Oswego, however, is in CONSTANT BATTLE with the state because the city is always trying to find loopholes to privatize the lake to the super wealthy people who live on the lake. Their lawyers, no joke, argues that "the public can see the lake. That's access". They even have a fucking stone plaque that says "private lake, stay on the sidewalk" at the adjacent park.

It's still in court. Right now, people can swim only in one of the parks. So it counts as access. But the people pursuing the most recent lawsuit are kayakers I think. So ongoing?

Anyhow, Lake Oswego is pretty much the richville of Portland, Oregon suburbs and wants to kick out the plebs. Their Target is fancy.

For locals, there's a bad ass bar there I know the owners that's fucking great with the best music in the state! Private message for that info. But fuck that city either way. The owners don't live there.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

Thank you drunk person. Very informative.

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Their lawyers, no joke, argues that "the public can see the lake. That's access". They even have a fucking stone plaque that says "private lake, stay on the sidewalk" at the adjacent park.

Hypothetically, if someone were writing a fictional story about a Luigi type of hero in that situation, what would be the quickest and fastest way to destroy that stone plaque?

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

No idea. Crow bar and toss it in the lake?

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago

So. As a Stone Mason .....I sorta feel obliged to point out that, sorry, that is a BRASS sign.

Good news is it's almost certainly been attached with 2 shortish pegs into the stone and some chemfix, epoxy or the like. Also a good chance there's no pegs at all and it's just epoxied straight to the stone...

Either way, crowbar will, hypothetically, take that right off with no issues.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

As a metal worker, if I were to remove the message from this sign, I might use an 18-20v e angle grinder and flap disk grinding wheel so the brass doesn’t foul it too quickly.

Hypothetically, a cold chisel and hammer could work too, though it wouldn’t be as easy to leave a nice polished finish for marking the next message to visitors.

[-] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Or a belt sander. Just sand off "Private" and "on the steps." so it says, "Lake. Please stay"

[-] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I used to like going to the lake theater on weekdays I had off. Usually pretty empty, can get a nice burger and a beer and see a movie.

I stopped going because I'd almost get run over by rich, blonde women, driving large luxury SUVs while texting their real housewives of lake Oswego chat every single time. Haven't been down that way in a decade and don't miss it.

[-] experbia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

yes! I used to live there. it's bonkers.

Basically all the lakefront property is not owned by people directly, but leased under highly permissive terms from a single entity (ominously named "The Lake Corporation") so they can apply restrictions about land use to owners to prohibit public access, and act collectively to try and prevent public access attempts. It's basically a Union for rich people to use to collectively bargain to keep poors away from them. totally wild.

They exert undue influence over the city's politics which is usually evident by their inherent inequity and hostility to non-members in the city.. but the county they're in (Clackamas) tends to fight them a lot. The city's officials are usually in tight with the Lake Corp (or ARE Lake Corp) so it's basically a corporation vs the county/state trying to keep poor people away.

The city's dedicated police force, unsurprisingly, are very keen on the Lake Corp... so even if you (legally) access the lake, they will send a boat out to hassle you until they find a reason to move you along - usually with the lie "you had to trespass to get here. you can leave and we'll drop it, or you can make this hard"

[-] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Be kinda fun to hire a chopper service to bring a bunch of boats in. No trespassing involved getting in, but to leave would require trespassing. Play it like you're being detained/forced to trespass to leave.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Their punishment is to spend every winter in SUNY Oswegos freshman dorms. Let the lake take them.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Wow !! thanks for the story

[-] ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 90 points 2 months ago
[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 40 points 2 months ago

Gotta keep the momentum going.

[-] raoulduke85@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Gotta use those blue shells when you play Mario kart as Luigi.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 months ago

Mario Kart all sorts of extra tools to help to get from last place get into first place.

[-] WarlockoftheWoods@lemy.lol 65 points 2 months ago

Begun, the class war has.

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago

In America, shots get fired into people's homes on a daily basis. That sort of thing doesn't usually make even statewide news.

We should worry about fixing those other problems before worrying about some rich prick. If the rich person is so concerned about their safety, why don't they just hire some private security?

I don't see any reason why this is being treated as news.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 months ago

Because this was likely a message.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago

Because all the other times people shoot into houses it just happens that their guns are pointed there and loaded and the security mechanism is a bit wonky and all of a sudden 50 bullet holes in the wall and windows...

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

So are shots fired at normal people’s homes. Usually it’s a message from a rival gang but it’s still a message.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

Message to who about what?

[-] the_q@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

No. This is how we fix the other problems. You don't let the cancer grow and treat the symptoms; you kill the cancer.

[-] puppycat 63 points 2 months ago

can't deny it, it's time to defend and depose.

[-] afronaut@lemmy.cafe 61 points 2 months ago

Yes :) that’s right. Keep reporting on class warfare, please.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 months ago

This was a workman's comp insurance CEO not a US healthcare CEO. The difference is unlike healthcare insurers, workman's comp isn't paid into by the victim and they actually provide some benefit at least in theory.

[-] hooferboof@lemmy.world 82 points 2 months ago

Except if you ask anyone that's ever had to deal with workers comp its always too little too late and a mountain of bullshit. Workers comp is arguably even worse than normal health insurance companies to deal with.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Again in theiry the difference is workman's comp still provides a service whereas other than rent seeking I am not sure what us health insurers do.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

In theory regular insurance provides the same benefits as worker's comp and the cost of both come out of paychecks one way or the other.

Worker's comp is just insurance with even more steps.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

Workman's comp wouldn't be necessary if we had universal healthcare.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 months ago

Workman's comp isn't just covering hospital bills, it also covers lost wages while recovering or retaining if you can't go back to your old profession.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

That would more logically be handled by unemployment.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

Unemployment is a no-fault general fund for a regular result of an economy. Workman's comp is (as in its name) is compensatory. They're giving workman's comp because otherwise you might be able to sue for damages due to an unsafe workplace.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm saying if you can't work it makes more sense for that to be centralized into one thing instead of two. The reason for why matters far less than the reason for that one can't work.

They’re giving workman’s comp because otherwise you might be able to sue for damages due to an unsafe workplace.

No, you can still sue even if you take workman's comp. Workman's comp exists because regular insurance decided that it doesn't cover you at work just like they decided they didn't cover preexisting conditions, injuries due to accidents, or any other stupid thing they came up.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

That's generally not true. Only in very few instances can you sue your employer after taking workman's comp.

https://www.hhrlaw.com/blog/2024/february/does-accepting-workers-comp-mean-i-cant-file-a-l/

And there's a good reason to make the business foot the bill in some form: because it motivates them to not have an unsafe workplace. Whether that's due to increase premiums, direct suits, or governmental punishment, unsafe businesses should pay for their failures rather than being subsidized by the general public.

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[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Automobile insurance would be drastically less as well.

Everything would be far less complicated and expensive if we did universal healthcare.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

No, then you allow employers to export their job risk cost to others. Employers should pay for injuries and illness caused by work (if care was required it would be great if universal existed).

That said, yes lots of WC is shitty insurers trying toinimize care/cost and get the person back to work.

[-] spooky2092 2 points 2 months ago

Workers comp insurance fights about as hard as other insurance companies to fuck you over. My girlfriend ended up rather disabled after an incident at her job and their workman's comp fight like hell to blame a previously unknown health condition, and the LTD people managed to get out of paying once STD ran out and she didn't have the money to fight it.

Insurance is insurance, and fuck them all.

[-] echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

They are generally on par with uhc from my experience with them

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago

I wonder how this is affecting life insurance rates for insurance CEOs.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

Any kids or spouse present?

With how reckless this was I wouldn't be surprised if this was a Boogaloo stunt to frame leftists either. They were caught doing that with George Floyd protesters after all.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah if there was no one home this is the equivalent to a publicity stunt.

I'll wait to see if they start passing legislation to protect CEOs before I call "false flag" though

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They were home. They thought it was rocks at the time.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

We should be doing the same at trump-related events. There are no rules anymore. We already know that right-wing terrorists get coddled by police, so there is practically 0 risk

[-] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 17 points 2 months ago

Another luigi.

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