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[-] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Say it with me now: THEY DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE POLLS

[-] Mouette@jlai.lu 3 points 4 hours ago

Democrats on their way to do nothing for 4 year then have the most free possible election to do same shit as Trump in less unhinged then rince and repear

[-] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

And somehow theyll manage to lose.

[-] aeternum 8 points 8 hours ago

does it matter? 1) he wasn't even elected 2) he's already in power, so he doesn't give a fuck about ratings 3) he's not going to give up that power for anyone.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 15 points 17 hours ago

Man, if Musk is tanking this hard, I am not sure he's going to get re-elected.

[-] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 27 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

He doesn't care about being popular or unpopular. He's the king now, he can do whatever he wants.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Oh idk, musk/zuck definitely have masculinity and self confidence issues. They have to buy their "man" card and seek approval from everyone. I think trump is similar, he's melted down before over dumb shit.

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

MUSK ISN'T FUCKING ELECTED WHO THE FUCK CARES IF HE'S "TANKING" WHAT THE FUCK

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Oh no! Wormtongue isn’t popular amongst those that didn’t vote for him?

Say it ain’t so!

[-] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 11 points 21 hours ago

So? What you guys gonna do about it? Nothing probably.

[-] maccam912@programming.dev 3 points 17 hours ago

If Trump thinks in ratings, spread the word that ever since this musk character got introduced the ratings for the old Trump character are plummeting. If Elon is in the picture there is no room left for an old deal making business guy and they should write him out of the script. Although I bet ratings would skyrocket on this show if they had an episode where the tension between Trump and musk boils over while they are isolated in a bunker stuck with each other. Talk about great TV!

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

So does "tanking" mean being laid in front of a tank and run over multiple times?

Because I can get behind this.

[-] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Time to start a other shitty TokTik trend!

insert shitty AI voice "Only billionaires can afford to do this challenge!"

[-] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

The entire point of Musk being so visible is to pin all the unpopular stuff on him.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Thing is that Bronzo the Clown looks like a cuck even to a redcap when you watch fElon and Hannity talking over him, or fElon and his kid in the WH doing more talking than Bronzo as he sits there looking like he's sundowning.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

It gives Democrats an opening - in two years, if there are still elections.

[-] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 6 points 21 hours ago

Lol elections. You don't think they've planned for that? There won't be elections in 2 years. He's gutted half the government already.

[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I keep seeing this... folks really think we're gonna get to vote again.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

America follows the course of Nazi Germany. The US had their Machtergreifung, and if they might get the next Democratic elections in (1949-1933)=16 years, after the Americans came in and stopped the Nazis. Oh, wait...

[-] Saljid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Oh, you will. In the same sense that Russia has elections.

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How are they going to stop it? Republicans have been trying to stop elections since 2017, they're not smart enough to figure out how. They couldn't even figure out how to schedule a press conference about it at the four seasons.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 241 points 1 day ago

The last poll they cared about was in early November 2024.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Exactly, fascists give zero fucks about public sentiment once they're in power. All they need to do is control the media and polls will align with their goals again. Case in point is the renaming of the Gulf of Mexico

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-02-19/donald-trump-gulf-of-mexico-gulf-of-america

Edit as things are moving very fast.

Here's an even more boldfaced attempt at controlling the media. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-newsmax-oppose-trump-ap-ban_n_67b85283e4b05145b9c53cce

[-] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

Quite the contrary. They base their power on the perception that they have a mass movement behind them. Protests can break that perception. There's an entire wikipedia article on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism

It's not time to put away that tool just yet. Protests on a mass scale can do a lot.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I'm not advocating against protest. My comment history is proof of that.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

The idea that AP is "radical left". LOL.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Approval always matters, even without democracy.

Democracy is just a managed, fairly agreed upon process for a governed people to exercise their will. But a governed people always have the ability to exercise their will. Authoritarian tactics can make that more difficult, but they cannot ever prevent it.

Remember, if there was nothing people could do to stop them, their propaganda would not be necessary. The fact that they are engaged in information control demonstrates that they do very much care about approval - or, at least, acceptance.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What did the German Citizenship do in 1934? Because they voted in 1932 to make the Nazi party the largest single party in the Reichstag and for the next 2 years they had no input on the machinations of Hitler to become a dictator. Any of that sound familiar?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power

The speed at which the German government was dismantled was extreme. In less than 45 days after Hindenburg died, Hitler was a dictator. DOGE and Trump are making much of the same changes to our government. Fascist or Monarchist or Oligarchy or Kleptocracy, it doesn't matter. Our government is currently being dismantled at a rate at which our institutions have never seen before.

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/democracy-governance/analyzing-doge-actions-one-month-trumps-second

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/21/trump-wild-first-month-doge-musk/78657028007/

Polls don't matter once they're in power. The only thing that's going to stop this is large unified action at the local level and probably a general strike. Both of which take time to organize and to do so in an encrypted and secure way. That takes time. We're years away.

If you'd like to join an open unencrypted movement you can start at the below links.

https://generalstrikeus.com/aboutus

https://www.fiftyfifty.one/

If you're interesting in organizing locally you could follow the suggestions in this comment.

https://lemmy.world/comment/14983176

or check out https://lemmy.world/c/Resist@fedia.io

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

You're think you're disagreeing with me, but I want to be clear that you're advocating for exactly the same things I am.

Polls don't matter, but public opinion absolutely does. You can't organize a mass movement of resistance without a mass of people to organize. The fact that Trump's agenda is becoming increasingly unpopular is an opportunity for those organizing resistance to bring in more support.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I didn't say we're in disagreement, I'm highlighting the nature of our situation.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Americans are still too comfortable to revolt.

[-] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago

It’s a knee jerk reaction for many to want polls to still matter. Polls are important of course, but not this year and next year is uncharted territory.

The only thing to do watch now is the comfort zone of the 10,000+ people in the American billionaire families; and that is the only check in power right now

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd be surprised if there aren't massive changes to gun laws in the next 2 years and a giant restructure of the military in the next 3 so that Trump or one of his cronies can still be in power in 5....

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[-] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 1 day ago

Why would Elmo care about his approval ratings? He’s not an elected official.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Because he's a narcissist. He cant help but care.

[-] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

he'll just run the poll on X and his narcissistic injury is healed.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He cannot stand people not liking him. He's a weird little dude that needs everyone to love him.

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Wouldn’t it be good news for trump if musk is tanking? Maybe he resigns and trump becomes president

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 42 points 1 day ago

How awesome would it be for him to get arrested and not pardoned because Trump blames him for tanking his poll numbers

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[-] breadcat@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago
[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That thumbnail? Did someone alter the lo-fi girl to have a skull?

[-] vii@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

That's the point isn't it? To pin polls on Elon.

[-] drop_and_run@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

It's a good thing Musk wasn't elected.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Trump still has higher approval ratings than Biden did. This doesn’t make any difference to trump or his cult.

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