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A European Parliament member claimed that the U.S. gave Europe three weeks to agree on Ukraine's "surrender" terms or risk an American withdrawal from Europe.

Mika Aaltola made the claim on X, but provided no evidence. NBC News reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suggested a U.S. troop reduction in Europe.

Trump reportedly plans to cut 20,000 troops and demand greater NATO contributions. He has pushed for higher NATO defense spending.

Trump may meet with Putin soon, believing Russia holds the upper hand in negotiations.

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[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

We need regime change in the USA. The global community should work together for this endeavor.

[-] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Most of the global community benefits from Trump's government. They aren't looking for a regime change. Western nations and US Eastern allies are the ones that are being betrayed.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

The European NATO members should tell the AmeriKans they have 3 weeks to shutdown all their military bases until Jan 2029.

[-] Goldholz 11 points 1 day ago

Nah. Keep them closed forever. We dont need the traitor alliance

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

And keep them shut if fair elections are not allowed to be carried out by their reality tv star dictator.

[-] twelvegoats@lemm.ee 38 points 1 day ago

Being an American that feels like they no longer have a home, I would like Europe to unleash holy hell upon the US. Do not let this fascicle president dictate what you do for your continent. You were fine before we took over swaths of your countries for their bases, you can be the strong leaders that the West need to fight everything that's going on in your vicinity with Russia, North Korea, and any other rogue nation. I hate to say it, but the US is a part of that sentence as well. The US will not protect you anymore, I have absolutely no faith that the US will step up when you need them the most. Protect yourselves.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

fascicle

Never seen this word before and in my head I just read "foshizzle"

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Trump is gambling with monopoly money.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

He put all his money on red.

But Europe is playing poker.

[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

What would be the purpose of US support in Europe if not defending against Russia?

The US presence in Europe exists to facilitate US power projection, if we are not stopping Russian advancement then there is no reason for host countries to allow US bases in their territory.

[-] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

US failed to stop the Russian advancement in Ukraine. So the US is backtracking from the war, in hopes of salvaging it's relationship with Russia, to prevent another Cold War with Russia + China.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Cleary its time for Europe to round up, cage up, and deport all Americans and put a wall around Europe. And America will be made to pay for it.

If its a good enough policy for mexican and central american countries' citizens then its a good enough policy for American citizens. They have no right to flee their own collapsing country into Europe, bringing their failed philosophies and neglected personal health with them. Doubly so if they are poorly educated. Many of them are probably servants of Putin and his terrorism, thus terrorists themselves.

Lets try that one on for size. Doesnt feel very good does it, my fellow Americans.

[-] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Come on CIA, you've assassinated leaders for much less.

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

Only to protect the interests of capital though. If you're a popular black guy talking about economic distribution then you're cooked, but increasing the wealth from the middle-class to the rich and killing the opposition is what the CIA is for.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

You're assuming they didn't help bring this about in the first place.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 day ago

Call his bluff.

American soft power around the globe relies on having those bases on foreign soil.

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Military bases and soldiers are the opposite of soft power

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Eh, it's at least hybrid. Classic hard power is the use of the military. That can include garrisoning but usually by force, not by permission.

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[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

If any European country bows down to Donald, I’ll boycott it for the rest of my life

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

"If any man dies with a clean sword, I'll rape his fucking corpse!" - Winston Churchill, 1940.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Hungary and Slovakia for sure. Italy is heading in that direction after Meloni cried about the anti-trump meeting held in Paris.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can count on Hungary and maybe Slovakia to grovel...like good america/russia first Europeans.

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 21 points 1 day ago

Art of the deal. Plan A is to give three weeks to sign off on the surrender. When they refuse, Plan B starts. Plan B is that there is no Plan B.

[-] Goldholz 64 points 2 days ago

Do it! I dare you! Fuck of from europe! Take all your companies with you! Dont sell us weapons anymore!

Democracie is none negotiatable and we dont negotiate with terrorist acomplices!

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago

Yeah, well we didn't vote for him. He can keep his lunacy for his subjects.

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[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago
[-] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 day ago

Also known as "pig hitler"

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago

Fuck him. First, he'll do what we wants regardless of whether you concede to his demands. If we wants to withdraw troops, he'll withdraw them, no matter what concessions you make to him in hopes of preventing that. Look at his history. Look at how he has treated the other party in Every. Single. One. of the "deals" that he's made. He fucks them over. NEVER believe he'll hold up his side of whatever bargain you make. He won't.

Don't ever concede to this bully. The more you concede, the more demands he'll make, like with a blackmailer. Call his bluff. Say, "Sorry, we don't agree. If that means you'll withdraw, then don't let the screen door hit ya where the good lord split ya on the way out." Bam! End of bullying and if he didn't want to withdraw, he'll find some excuse no to go through with it (or probably just lie and say you agreed to do something for him behind the scenes).

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[-] ploot 184 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In a post on X, formerly Twitter, Finland's Mika Aaltola of the European People's Party claimed that the U.S. "has given us three weeks to agree on terms for Ukraine's surrender," referring to a proposed peace deal aimed at ending the war.

"If we don't, the United States will withdraw from Europe," Aaltola added.

Trump is demanding that Europe hand Ukraine to Russia, or he will hand Europe to Russia. This man is not working for the good of the USA or its traditional allies. He is working against them, destroying Europe, NATO and the USA for the sake of himself, Vladimir Putin and a few Nazi billionaires.

And clearly when he threatens Europe like that they should not for a minute believe that he will not hand them over to Russia if they do what he says. Given that, Europe should tell him to get lost.

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[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 151 points 2 days ago

Russia is losing in Ukraine but some how in the Orange Turds mind Russia is wining. Russia has the upper hand with their Puppet in the USA.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 129 points 2 days ago

No no, he doesn't think that Russia is winning, he wants Russia to win.

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[-] Goldholz 32 points 2 days ago

Even if we were to agree to those demands, there is no garantie they would actually help in defense of us!

We had to defend them when they called articel 5 but wont do the same for us!

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I really hope the rest of the world leaders keep this at the forefront of their mind: Trump doesn't keep his word. Also, Trump doesn't pay his debts.

Attempting to make ANY deal with him is foolish. The wisest move is to expect him to screw over anyone who attempts to "work with" him, because unless you're holding his purse strings, he'll use you and lose you at his soonest opportunity. He is a cancer cell stealing resources from all the healthy cells around him - expect him to give nothing and take everything for his own gain.

I know to some that is "preaching to the choir," but living in the U.S. at a time like this, I really don't know who's been charmed by his BS vs who can see what's really going on. I imagine those outside the U.S. have better perspective, but I can't just expect people to be rational anymore.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 90 points 2 days ago

risk an American withdrawal from Europe.

Why is this a threat? Is there a reason Europe would want a hostile country to remain there?

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[-] khannie@lemmy.world 115 points 2 days ago

I mean, we've all already assumed US capitulation and cessation of any alliance tbh. It only took about two weeks.

Jog on.

Best of luck with China and that supply chain. They're looking at how you're throwing Ukraine under the bus and thinking "Oh hell yes".

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