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[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Obviously it's because China and North Korea, being totalitarian dictatorships, have made suicide illegal and punishable by death!

(I have literally met someone who thought that suicide is punishable by death in China. Like if you try to kill yourself and survive they'll finish the job for you.)

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

I always find it fascinating how readily people in the west will believe the most patently absurd things about countries they've been told to hate.

[-] SoleInvictus 2 points 15 hours ago

I think it's because they're raised from birth having only heard these absurd notions and many never consider if they are truly absurd or not. It's kinda sad.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago
[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

And it's of course projection as always, for example, suicide was illegal in UK till 1961, and most other western countries also criminalised it at some points in the past.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago

Pretty much all the crazy accusations the west levels against the adversaries have either happened or are currently happening in the west.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A quick search on google proved really quickly that these numbers are incorrect.

Feel free to look it up yourself.

Edit: op edited the image.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Reason: Mis or disinformation. These numbers are not correct.

Seeing how you found such evidence, feel free to provide it, or it didn’t happen.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

I don't want to be accused of fudging the numbers. Everyone here is capable of using a search engine and exploring one of many helpful websites that tracks suicide rates around the world.

The interesting thing you'll find is which of the two countries OP fudges the numbers on even tho their "point" wouldn't need the help.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

Now I’m even less convinced that you actually did “a quick search on google.”

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Sorry I didn't use decade old stats from Wikipedia.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago

Reason: Spam or Abuse

You understand that you’re reporting me to myself, right?

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Yes. I am well aware if how lemmy works, as I am aware that you are as well. I'm purposely annoying you by doing that.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Good of you to admit you're just a spammer.

[-] notgold@aussie.zone 8 points 2 days ago

Wikipedia seems to back up these stat's. Though as someone that has discussed this topic with Chinese nationals several times, their number seems artificially low.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate?wprov=sfla1

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago

You know what you're completely right. Fixed the numbers and added sources in the description.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Awesome now explain the correlation between these rates and your claim. Maybe you can help me out by telling me the methodology of gathering this information and how truthful the reporting actually is.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

The reason you'd have more suicides is because more people are unhappy with their lives to the point where they want to end them. Meanwhile, even if we don't the exact reason, we can see that there is a statistically difference in outcomes between two systems. Let me know if you need this explained in simpler terms.

[-] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago
[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago
[-] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

The image says 16.7 for Taipei, not 6.7. neither my comment nor the image contains a 6.7.

Now you can argue all western and Eastern sources are undercounting nk and China, that's why I didn't even include nk given the natural mistrust of information from a country with less than 10k tourists a year; but any search of this info online shows the same trend: Chinese nationals dont commit suicide as often as their oppressed neighbors.

[-] culprit@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Those downvoters would be very radicalized if they could absorb information critical of capitalism.

:KingOfTheHillMeme:

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago
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