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[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago

This is the third time today that I have seen a reference to the sword of Damocles. Almost as if the entire fucking world feels like it’s only a thread away from destruction…

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've been seeing it a lot more recently, too. IRL even.

Did it get used by sometime famous recently or something?

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 190 points 2 days ago

Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last version I'd ever use. They didn't know how right they were. I've been gradually switching to Linux, and will absolutely never use Windows 11 or any other version they put out.

[-] DharkStare@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago

I built a new gaming PC and installed Linux on it. After years of threatening to do it, I finally followed through and made the switch.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 13 points 2 days ago

I just bought a laptop last year (portability and space constraints, I'd love to build a pc when I have the space for it) and it was supposed to come with windows 10.

I got a windows 11 model shipped to me. I didn't ask for this. And I have to say.... I fucking hate it. Why does the start menu need to change locations...

My next computer will absolutely be Linux, and it's Microsoft's own stupid fault. Windows 10 WAS supposed to be my last windows OS...

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[-] Potatisen@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

The second creative cloud is on Linux the share of windows users will drop dramatically.

[-] cccrontab@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

Adobe needs to be abandoned as well. Clip Studio, Krita, Gimp, Affinity are either free OSS or one-time-payment great alternatives without the AI and privacy BS.

[-] Doombot1@lemmy.one 19 points 2 days ago

I’ve also mentioned this before but for those that need a more photoshop-like GIMP experience, try taking a look at PhotoGimp, it’s essentially a reskin+remap of all of the hotkeys to more closely match those of photoshop, and it works wonderfully.

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[-] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 17 points 2 days ago

I tried to switch to Linux several days ago, but there were clear issues regarding games that weren't tied to Steam. Heroic Games Launcher, Lutris, Bottles, and so forth all had shortcomings regarding compatibility, handling of DLC, or lack of user-friendliness. Then I tried to use a VM, which was a frustrating rabbit hole. Virt-Manager supports GPU passthru, but you have to jump through hoops to identify PCI addresses and to configure correctly. Boxes initially seemed promising, but had no apparent way of storing the VM on my gaming drive. (Linux terminal commands are beyond my understanding.) Considering how big games are getting, and the size of my collection, that is a bad combo. Virtualbox doesn't have GPU passthru, so the performance sucked.

As a gamer, I currently find Linux to be insufficient. I was wanting to switch due to security concerns regarding Microsoft, especially in light of the Trump Regime's willingness to ignore law and norms. My concern is that they could use Windows as a spy, or to seal up my computer to punish those who go against Dogey America. As it is, I will have to use some scripts from Github to break Windows Update if I hear of Richmond being infiltrated by the Xitler Youth.

Here's hoping that Gabe decides to invest much more heavily in Linux to make it casual friendly - I want my mods, cheats, Japanese locale games, emulators, and so forth to all work seamlessly and without compromise. I would seriously pay $400 smackers to have an OS that is capable, flexible, compatible, friendly, and most importantly, MINE.

The days of just buying Windows 7 Ultimate and not thinking about Microsoft was glorious.

[-] g3ek@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You should definately look at PlayOnLinux for those game. It is an app to help leverage all Wine setup and configuration. Normally with Steam and this would should be able to run almost everything.

https://www.playonlinux.com/en/supported_apps-1-0.html

tried to use a VM

Yeah, this is where you went wrong. It's possible, but it really doesn't solve anything IMO, has the possibility of getting detected (so anticheat bans), and can often run worse. It's possible to get a sane setup, but what are you really gaining over just dual booting? You're still running Windows, after all, but now you have drawbacks (and some benefits) of a VM.

Can you be more specific about what didn't work? As in, games, platforms, etc. If it's a game with anticheat, you're probably SOL on Linux, but I have Heroic working just fine on both my Linux desktop (openSUSE) and Steam Deck. I usually launch through Steam to use Steam input and manage Proton versions, and it seems to work fine for GOG and EGS. Some games have issues, so check protondb.com if that's the case, but most work just fine.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago

The idea here with the VM is two-fold: First, to keep a potential Windows Big Brother update from spying on my documents and whatnot, while also preventing it from tampering with the security of my PC. Secondly, to maximize compatibility, since I lost trust in Linux to not have technical issues with my gaming. That means mods, Japanese games, emulators, and so forth. Windows is simply more reliable and documented, unlike Linux. If something goes wrong with a game playing on Windows, there is decent odds of me troubleshooting. My hardware should be able to handle a VM, it being a 5950x with a RTX 4090+3060, and 128gb of RAM.

Anyhow, I don't really remember the specifics regarding how my efforts with Lutris, Heroic Game Launcher, and so forth went: I don't like remembering unpleasant things. All that I recall is assorted errors or lack of features that rattled my willingness to trust Linux for gaming. I will try again some years for now, if I hear Linux has become more suitable to the task.

If it's not an anticheat issue, Linux is probably suitable right now. Linux is quite different from Windows, but most problems have simple solutions if you know where to look, which usually means knowing who to ask.

That said, I think you'd be better off with a dual boot. That way you only need one GPU, and you can slowly move your gaming to Linux, falling back to Windows if something doesn't work right.

That said, I totally understand if you're burned out from it. Just know that there are a lot of Linux users who are happy to help if you get motivated to try again.

[-] EllaSpiggins@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What distro did you try?

I’ve been on bazzite for some time now and haven’t had any of those problems

[-] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Sorry it didn’t work out for you like Linux Mint works for me (I switched full time to LM in December 2024).

If you haven’t already, switch to Windows 10 LTSC in the interim. I have a feeling Linux will only improve over time with greater compatibility with Proton. Since Win 10 LTSC is supported until 2029, that’s plenty of time for for more kinks to be worked out and you can potentially try Linux again.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago

I am already on a Internet of Things edition, which is the debloated version of Windows. However, that still leaves the possibility of Microsoft going fascist and sending out a Big Brother update.

Regarding Linux, it was indeed Mint that I tried to use - it seemed similar to Windows, at least visually. Getting standard software was easy enough, and things seemed promising until I started to migrate my gaming. I mod my games a fair bit of the time, or play niche stuff that hardly has support on Windows. It became very apparent that Linux can't handle that, not yet. In a couple of years I will revisit Linux.

[-] padge@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I switched to Nobara Linux at the end of last year, and for the most part when I consider how often I'd have to fix Windows stuff, it's not that much more work. Still not the same though, and I keep a Windows partition around for certain stuff even though I groan having to load into it

[-] scops@reddthat.com 81 points 2 days ago

The whole point of the Sword of Damocles was that the threat was always looming and Damocles didn't know when it might fall. We know exactly when Microsoft says they are going to drop support. There's a decent chance that they'll push that date back due to slow adoption at least once.

This is more about rats not fleeing the sinking ship until the sea has reached the bow.

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Well, the real moment it becomes an issue is when a significant vulnerability is found after EOS. So I guess after EOS is when the sword of damocles starts hanging above every win 10 user..

Personally I'm on the edge of the ship just waiting to jump off once i have my new pc (probably next week).

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 14 points 2 days ago

With the shit they built into 10 I really would not be surprised if they put in a kill switch

[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago

"Sword of Damocles" like bitch we used service pack 2 XP for ever. "We won't support something" means nothing if the original product was built right.

...Ohhh now I see the problem. Nevermind, everybody, carry on.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 2 days ago

I know people still running XP sp3 (firewalled off the net) and it still does the job. They claimed to have killed 7 but between FOSS and enshittification pushback I reckon it's gonna be like the PS2

[-] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 12 points 2 days ago

I enjoy this headline writing style. Imagine if we turned "try these 7 tricks" headlines into "Dionysius I of Syracuse would like you to try these"

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

At the moment I’m 50/50 between switching over to Linux full-time, or full booting Windows 10 LTSC.

But having had to use it for work, I am adamant in saying that Windows 11 will never touch my home system drive.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

Linux

One of us, one of us, one of us.

[-] breen@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 days ago

I enjoyed the visual design of Win 11, but the bloatware, spyware, and AI slop it started to install was just too much. The Steam Deck has proven 99% of Steam games run fine on Linux, so I made the switch and killed my Windows partition a few months ago.

Feels so clean and light running Linux - my god I never knew my PC could run so fast! Windows was really truly awful and I had no idea until I removed it from my life completely. Games run flawlessly on it - I'm using Elementary OS because it's clean and user friendly.

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[-] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 days ago

Windows 10 LTSC is supported until 2032 or so. I’ll be avoiding upgrading for a long time.

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[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

Sword of Damocles? More like the sword of Microsoft can go fuck itself!

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Pry it from my cold dead hands. I have linux on multiple computers, but it still can’t play all the games and give me my 5.1 surround. Despite all the claims, it’s still not ready for primetime to do all the things windows does.

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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 2 days ago

If I did anything other than use my PC as a glorified gaming console, I might care about w10 not being updated anymore. Until games literally can't work on the OS, I'll stay on it. And when they do stop working, I'll probably just install Linux.

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[-] celerycoloured@lemmy.one 4 points 2 days ago

I would switch to Linux but I have yet to find a distro that recognizes my 5K monitor

Wow, I didn't know that was an option, I thought we did 4k, then skipped to 6k and 8k. What's the actual resolution on that thing?

[-] celerycoloured@lemmy.one 2 points 1 day ago

5120x2880, it’s the same panel as the Apple Studio Display made by LG, just in a much cheaper chassis.

[-] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago

I finally upgraded to 11 last week by accident. Apparently one misclick means straight to next version with no cancel. So after the upgrade first thing I did was get o&o shutup10 to kill the spywares.

P.s. I know I can revert. But that's also effort.

[-] tiramichu@lemm.ee 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Revert then.

This is exactly what Microsoft are counting on, that people will simply go "oh well" and just carry on with Windows 11, because any effort needed to move away is too much effort.

Prove them wrong. Stand up for yourself.

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[-] hisao@ani.social 10 points 2 days ago

There are still people so powerful they manage to use Windows XP in this day and age. My intuition says most people will be able to use Windows 10 for at least one more decade with minimal issues, after that it will gradually become trickier, but it will still be usable even in 20-30 years with advanced hacks if humanity doesn't go extinct by then.

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[-] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but this happens with every version. Windows 7 still had a big market share up until MSFT cut off support. Users are going to bitch and complain and talk about switching to Linux, but eventually just install the next Windows version.

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[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For the curious I’ve found bazzite to be the best and easiest Linux distro for gaming

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