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[-] HertzDentalBar 31 points 6 days ago

Maybe work on making life less shitty so people don't drink more?

[-] Heliumfart@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago

Pretty sure the WHO is working on that.

[-] iriyan@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Anthopology has provided clear evidence, in all times, in all tribes and continents, the percentage of people that will abuse substances that affect the mind has been steady, and there is nothing anyone can do about it, they will find the substance in the wilderness if it is not in the market.

Alternatively both politically and economically certain entities will use this weakness to control and manipulate people, either by promoting one, or by criminalizing another. Miami became big and important during prohibition because politicians would travel down there to drink and ... whatever else they needed. Bootlegging lasted twice or more after prohibition was reverted, mostly because industrial production wasn't there to cover the need/market.

Opium smoking was common in Europe among the elites all the way to early 20th century. The poor just smoked cheaper stuff.

The WHO are hypocrites than need to hang high and dry

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

nothing anyone can do about it

Hmm, thought folks had rougher times getting sober when e.g. living in a tent on the street surrounded by addicts vs. when safely and happily housed

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[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

We should all just take some acid…

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[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago
[-] sibachian@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

the doctor.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Got nuts, but if you're worried about people drinking to much work on making it easier to get by as working class. The shorter lifespan is just less getting crushed by the weight of my living expenses.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Surely shaming people and making them feel bad for their choices will work this time, not just cause more animosity in the world. People with drinking problems usually do so to escape something, to bad we can fix those underlying issues.

[-] sebb@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago

Wow! Finally! 🎉🎉 It's astonishing that it took so many decades. We knew, we always knew that alcohol causes cancer. Now we also know that the risk is significant from any amount. And of course, it's not just cancer.

Those labels, they really work. Like, the society to big extend quit smoking thanks to those labels.

Policies curbing smoking weren't popular at the time, people criticized them for being too much of an inconvenience and ineffective at the same time. But they really worked and our society became better and healthier because of them. Funny, how watching the debate about alcohol now, reading people's comment here, you can actually relive this experience now just years later. When people say "they should focus on X instead", and things like that, that's a form of denialism

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Isn't this already common knowledge? No one is drinking alcohol because they think it's good for you.

People: drink alcohol to help them survive being exploited under capitalism

WHO: "best I can do is tell you that you're going to die sooner"

Also, I don't know if anyone's researched this, but I'm 99% sure the stress chemicals your body generates from being a wage slave and living paycheck to paycheck your entire life are far more carcinogenic than alcohol. Maybe that should come with a label too.

[-] sebb@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The facts are alcohol doesn't help anyone to survive shit. We know that it's the opposite, it makes life of people that consume it more miserable.

It instead accumulates together with the stress you experience within your life. It adds more stress, not removes it. Cancer is just one thing, but alcohol is very disrupting to your endocrine (hormones) system, mental health.

What you're doing is a form of denialism. That denialism comes precisely from what those labels are addressing. You're being constantly exposed to the image of alcohol as something to enjoy, a pleasure, relief. It's constantly reinforced by movies, TV shows, media, advertisements.

It's not about knowledge. It's about exposure. If you're constantly exposed to an image of alcohol as a positive thing in your life then you will deny it's impact despite the facts, science, and knowledge

[-] prole 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The facts are alcohol doesn’t help anyone to survive shit

Hard disagree... I did it just last night.

Not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

There were a bunch of lies published by alcohol industry-backed groups about how a glass of red wine is good for your heart and shit. It probably would be helpful to bust those shitty myths.

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