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[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

ah good, lemmy hasn't changed a bit since i left it 2 months ago

welp see you losers next year

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 3 days ago

Thankfully you left me this message so I can block you and never hear from you ever again.

[-] Trual@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago
[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago
[-] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not me. I want the zealots all beheaded. Yea, what they're doing is illegal and I also* voted. But now it's chop chop time. I should start a website to get 15% of the population to agree with me on a specific day. Kind of like The General Strike. But with more axe.

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Dem's aren't even putting in the minimum effort into pretending to be an opposition party.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

They're gladly letting it all burn because they lazily expect it to mean easy wins in 2026. Then they'll manage to barely take the House and maaaaybe Senate, and literally do nothing with it.

cuz that worked so well this year. got booty clapped by a felon. utterly waffle stomped right back to the segregation days by this diaper clad casino salesman.

they're fucking done. they ain't participating in 2026 as anything but a joke write-in

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Sooo when does a new sane party appear ?

[-] lena@gregtech.eu 61 points 1 week ago

Better than not voting and doing nothing.

The best would be voting and being an activist.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 week ago

The US is not a democracy, it's a capitalist dictatorship.

Some Background: History conditions much of our thinking about our political systems and most Western democracies resemble Rome’s in 60 BC when, as Robin Daverman humorously says, three aristocrats–politician Julius Caesar, military hero Pompey and billionaire Crassus–formed a backroom alliance that dominated the elected senate. The oligarchs ensured that proletarii votes changed nothing and that the masses remained invisible unless they rioted or died in one of the elites’ endless civil wars. Two thousand years later, in Britain’s general election of 1784, the son of the First Earl of Chatham and Hester Grenville, sister of the previous Prime Minister George Grenville, and the son of the First Baron Holland and Lady Caroline Lennox, daughter of Second Duke of Richmond, offered voters offered a choice of dukes. Today, in many European countries (even egalitarian Sweden) ‘democracy’ is a mere veneer over powerful feudal aristocracies that still control their economies. American voters recently watched a former president’s wife competing with a former president’s brother being defeated by a billionaire who installed his daughter and son-in-law in important government positions and ensured that, as John Dewey said, “U.S. politics will remain the shadow cast on society by big business as long as power resides in business for private profit through private control of banking, land and industry, reinforced by command of the press and other means of propaganda”. Most Western politicians are related by marriage or wealth and have, like all hereditary classes, lost sympathy with the broad mass of their fellow citizens to the extent that, as American political scientists Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page found, ‘the preferences of the average American appear to have a near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy’

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 27 points 1 week ago

You are free to participate in any kind of meaningless gestures and genuflection to make yourself feel better, but the US is a controlled authoritarian oligarchy with democratic window dressing and not a democracy in any meaningful way.

[-] lena@gregtech.eu 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Look, if you aren't going to do anything else, you might as well vote. It's the best you can do. And even if you are active, you should still vote.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 18 points 1 week ago

Right, I said you are free to do any meaningless gestures you want

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[-] CastorSulMush@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Laws mean nothing if the Dictator in chief can break them without consequence.

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[-] Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I'm starting to see people rile up, fortunately, but it's not enough. I'm going down to my states senate office with a megaphone and gonna stir some shit up. You should too. People are like lemmings, they won't act until you do.

[-] TTH4P@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

Just try to tell them the parties are the same. I've been pilloried three times, they cut my balls off, and I'm set to be hung tomorrow at dusk.

[-] Makhno@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Saying a simplistic, basic-ass statement such like "both parties are the same" is just annoying and not correct

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ok, but no one here said that. Thats a strawman liberals put up to avoid a few topics.

Those topics you'd rather not talk about:

Is all of gaza destroyed right now or not? Were tens of thousands of innocent civilians massacred there with our help on Bidens watch?

If you admit the above then he's a war criminal isnt he.

Bidens response to the defund and reallocate movement for justice was to ignore the plees and increase police funding, correct?

Did abortion go down on Bidens watch? Did his previous work as head of the senate judiciary committee contribute to that?

Didnt Biden carry through with his promise to the rich donors that "nothing would fundamentally change"?

Biden and Harris were not for gun control were they. Are guns just not a problem anymore in our schools? School shootings stopped?

Did the Dems talk about the issues important to the poor and middle class? They sure needed their votes.

Did Biden have the polling numbers to win at any time in the 2 years leading up to the election? And did Harris do anything to differentiate herself from what was clearly a candidate who was about to lose in a big way?

Did Biden/Harris even bother to craft and talk about a Dem party platform? All we heard was "I'm not trump".

Do you think if Harris had differentiated herself from Biden, talked about the poor and working class's struggles and afirmed that the gaza war had to change, she would have still lost? I dont think so. But she chose not to do those things right.

And now Biden/Harris lost but its everyone elses "fault"? come on man. Stop lying to yourself and holding a pointless grudge and leveling these "both sides are the same" playground name calling distractions from these truths. Biden and Harris made the choices that led to the loss. They are not victim here, they are the perpetrators. We all got effed by their incomptence and hubris. Every demographic of voter was angry at Biden/Harris. Do you deny that?

You shouldnt be blaming the desperate voters who have been ignored and abused by their party, while excluding Biden/Harris from any blame. Some of you lot keep saying he's one of the best presidents ever-- when all of the above topics argue pretty strongly otherwise, if you;d just acknowledge that the topics even exist.

But you wont. You wont reply, you'll downvote, and thats the end of it for you.

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[-] Fungah@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

The issue isn't that the parties are the same. It is that neither should be in power. And you're all too fucking brainwashed to realize the only way out of this mess without violent revolution is a third party gaining power. And even with, probably.

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