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Remember to Rage Against The Machine!
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Rage 2022 in Cleveland.
Why are all of their songs still relevant 30 years later?
Because the problems they raged about are systemic, and the system didn't change.
It did change, though. It got significantly worse.
Because humans are fucking stupid and history always repeats itself.
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Because those that work forces are still the ones that burn crosses
Because nobody actually listened to and took seriously what they were saying 30 years ago.
Fun fact: After 9/11, various songs evoking 9/11, such as 'Learning to Fly' by Tom Petty, 'Stairway to Heaven' by Led Zeppelin, 'It's the End of the World as we Know it' by REM ... all banned from airing for about 120 days.
Oh.
And literally everything from Rage Against the Machine.
Other fun fact about this?
This censorship wasn't done by the FCC.
It was done by ClearChannel, aka iHeartRadio, aka, the corporation that now owns or controls basically all terrestrial radio stations.
https://www.kerrang.com/here-are-the-164-songs-that-were-banned-from-american-radio-after-9-11
The same reason socialist theory is still relevant 150+ years after it started
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I preferred them when they weren't so political.
/S obviously haha. I'm currently cutting a stencil that says "Nazi lives don't matter" to make some shirts.
lol
Drove all the way to NYC to see them with Run the Jewels after the pandemic. 100% worth it, one of the best shows I've ever been to.
Tim Commorford is weird to watch though. He kinda hops awkwardly from foot to foot.
It's so disappointing to hear Killer Mike spit revolutionary lyrics like in 'close your eyes' only to find out IRL he's into lame shit like black capitalism.
Yeah. The music still slaps though.
RATM's bassist is into some weird fringe right-libertarian stuff too if I recall
Nobody's perfect 🤷♂️
or they changed. 30 years is a long time.
their debut was released
- 3 years after the fall of Berlin wall
- a year after the dissolution of USSR
- 9 years before the September 11 attacks
- 15 years before iPhone
- 24 years before the election of a reality tv entertainer/real estate conman as POTUS
- China wasn't a superpower back then
- EU didn't exist in its current form
- Apartheid was still an actuality
- internet wasn't omnipresent
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Nazi lives matter a little. You can tally them up to keep score.
Save a life, punch a nazi
30 years later and more relevant than ever... That's not a good thing. Continue to rage.
I'm going to my states senate office on Monday with a megaphone and will not leave until the police are called. I'm going to write out what I want to say because I'm too heated to speak freely. Naysayers need not reply.
I’m going to my states senate office on Monday
Monday is Presidents day, are you sure they'll be open? I know a couple state employees and they have the day off. This could vary by state and office I guess. I'm just saying maybe check the website or something.
They were open! It wasn't just me there either. 🤘
RATM supported Sendero Luminoso.
Fuck RATM.
The Shining Path has been widely condemned for its excessive brutality, including violence deployed against peasants, trade union organizers, competing Marxist groups, elected officials and the general public.[2]
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The Shining Path's retaliation to this was one of the worst attacks in the entire conflict, with a group of guerrilla members entering the town and going house by house, killing dozens of villagers, including babies, with guns, hatchets, and axes. This action has come to be known as the Lucanamarca massacre.[39] Additional massacres of civilians by the Shining Path would occur throughout the conflict.[26][40][41]
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American rock band Rage Against the Machine released a music video for their 1993 song "Bombtrack" as a response to the arrest of Abimael Guzman the previous year. The video expresses support for Guzman and the Shining Path, featuring various clips of the organization's activities, as well as showing the band in a cage to mimic Guzman's imprisonment.[145]
Every life matters, and the reason we cannot make progress is because people who think they are 'good' are shunning and actively casting away people with less than desirable traits.
Nazis suck, racists suck, bigots suck, but they weren't born that way. Their lived experience led them to the place they are in. How do you get them out? Practice what you are preaching: compassion.
Edit: this comment here explains my point better than my own https://ponder.cat/comment/1872062
Every life matters
You started from a faulty assumption. Nazi lives don't matter.
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No, you're missing an entire level here. Racists suck, bigots suck but Nazis? Nazis round up people and gas them to death and then stack the bodies in the dirt like cord wood. It's a different level.
Have compassion for Trump guys. He's having a rough go of it lately.
Nowhere in my comment was Trump mentioned. I don't like him either. The concept of hurt people hurt people still applies though
Hahahaha! No! Not with neo-nazis. Look with racists and bigots I'll agree, try compassion first. I've done that and for most racists and bigots I've confronted it has worked. I didn't change them to be a champion of minorities but usually I can convince someone to behave nicer. Neo-nazis on the other hand are not just regular racists and bigots who say terrible things but don't actually do anything. Neo-nazis are the extreme and if they're an adult regardless of their life experience they know what they're saying is wrong. So no, I have no compassion and will never have compassion for an adult who is a neo-nazi. Period.
I'm glad to see that the strategy of compassion has worked for you in some cases. It's a nuanced topic, but I firmly believe that if we want to be progressive & inclusive we need to adopt a mindset of 'no man left behind'.
Again, it's nuanced and it takes a lot of effort. Perhaps I am oversimplifying things too much, on the other hand, I think that we will not be better off by casting out anyone.
You have a big heart, and that's a good thing. I could not disagree with you more. 'No man left behind' is a noble code to live to but I think that following it to an absolute sense defeats it's purpose. 'No man left behind' to me means anybody on my team is never alone. The key is they have to be on my team and in this case everyone who isn't a nazi is on my team. Neo-nazis have made real threats against people who I'm on the same team with and I would be leaving them behind if I didn't oppose neo-nazis. If it comes to it, yeah Nazi lives don't matter.
I'm not saying hunt them down and kill them. I'm saying take the ones who have actually done terrible things, put them in prison. Tell them to either grow up and change, or stay behind bars until they're so insignificant that there's no need to hold them anymore or until they die naturally. Holding neo-nazis accountable shouldn't be controversial. If that requires taking their life I won't shed any tears, but that is absolutely a last resort.
Thanks for your insight. I should have made clearer in my original comment that me saying that all lives matter does not equate to 'Neo-nazi's should walk free'. If the life of you or a person you care about is in immediate danger, then obviously that threat needs to be dealt with accordingly. We actually agree on pretty much everything.
I think for me the difference for now is in the recognition that while we as a civilization seem to be heading towards big trouble, most of us privileged enough to sit and type comments on an online discussion forum are not in actual immediate physical danger. It is therefore useless to me to think about crossing the line of taking lives, either for me or by me.
All I wish for is that when it is all said and done, we can all focus on improving lives, instead of ruining them. There is a lot of work that needs to be done before that though...
23 nazis disagree with this lol
Fuck Nazis
Here's the introduction (aka "Pillar I") to the plan currently being implemented: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Some highlights:
From page 20 of the project: "Vought (officially in charge of OMB after being confirmed recently) writes that the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) should establish a “reputation as the keeper of ‘commander’s intent,’”"
From page 21: " In Chapter 1, former deputy chief of staff to the President Rick Dearborn writes that the White House Counsel “must take seriously the duty to protect the powers and privileges of the President from encroachments by Congress, the judiciary, and the administrative components of departments and agencies.”
Page 28: "When a new President takes office, he will need to decide expeditiously how to handle any major ongoing litigation or other pending legal matters that might present a challenge to his agenda"...", the President should hire a counsel with extensive experience with a wide range of complex legal subjects. Moreover, while a candidate with elite credentials might seem ideal, the best one will be above all loyal to the President"
Page 32, regarding the office of presidential personnel (DOGE): "Playing “bad cop” in a way that other White House offices cannot (including serving as the office that takes direct responsibility for firings and hirings)."
They need to release one new song, it would be appropriate. Don't let the fascists win.
Arm the homeless
Mary Morello deserves some love as well. Tom has a show on sirius xm. I was introduced to Zeal & Ardor bc of them.
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