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U.S. aircraft carrier collides with merchant ship in Mediterranean Sea. (www.thecentersquare.com)
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The USS Harry Truman collided with a merchant ship in the Mediterranean Sea near Port Said, Egypt, on Wednesday evening.

No injuries or ship flooding have been reported by Navy officials.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

Saw on another source neither the US carrier or its support destroyer were broadcasting their beacons. According to that source this is allowed when air operations are occurring, but there's no indication they were, so the US ships should have been broadcasting.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

*were not broadcasting

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

*were not broadcasting

Incorrect to what I was trying to communicate.

*were not performing air operations.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

You weren't trying to say they weren't broadcasting AIS?

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Ah, that "were". For that one I had said "neither the US carrier or its support destroyer were broadcasting". With your suggested edit your "not" would negate my "neither" making the statement communicate that the ships WERE broadcasting.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Ah, I read it wrong. My bad.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

No worries at all. Long after the fact I thought of two or three ways to make it more understandable. I gave up a long time ago trying to fix the past to perfection. :)

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

*were not broadcasting

Incorrect to what I was trying to communicate.

*were not performing air operations.

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 36 points 1 week ago

This is what happens when you put DUI hires at the top.

[-] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

How/why was a merchant ship allowed to be anywhere near an aircraft carrier? Did the US learn nothing from the USS Cole?

[-] remon@ani.social 35 points 1 week ago

It's pretty crowded around the suez canal.

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Port Said is the entrance to the Suez canal. Ships congregate there while waiting to transit.

[-] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I get that. Standard operating procedure for something as valuable as an aircraft carrier should still be to schedule transit so that it can sit in a position protected by escorts until it is it's turn to go.

Realistically, the carrier should probably have half it's escorts go first and form a protective envelope on the destination side before it enters, then the remaining escorts follow providing rear cover.

A ship getting there by accident means someone also could have done it on purpose without the crew knowing it was an attack (this time)

Its sloppy at best, neglegent at worst and not a good look either way.

[-] warbond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

US ships don't wait around to enter the Suez. They coordinate with the US consulate in Egypt to ensure timely transits. Despite all of the technology and lookout requirements, these giant ships are still ponderously slow to maneuver, so my assumption is that this collision occurred due to emergent factors like changing weather conditions rather than just simple human error.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 27 points 1 week ago

pretty big ship

Both ships were operating near Port Said, Egypt, at the time, Gorman said in a brief news release.

This is a super busy area. Port Said is at the Mediterranean entrance of the Suez Canal, so both ships were probably in designated navigation channels which would mean restricted maneuvering...

There should have been a bunch of people on the Truman actively watching everything if that were the case. I wonder if we'll get to see any of the deck camera footage.

[-] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This can't possibly be unintentional right?

Remember an aircraft carrier is not just an airport on a ship, it's also the intelligence center and CIC of the entire battle group, so an aircraft carrier is equipped with literally the best radar and sensor suites of any vessel in the entire navy, that combined with the sheer number of people that will be on watch duty on such a massive ship, there is simply no possibility it could somehow "accidentally miss" a cargo ship to a point where a collision could happen.

While on the other side, Suez canal is some of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, so all cargo vessels follow strictly prescribed paths when leaving the canal, there's no reason for one single exiting ship among a swarm of them to have gone out its way to have a chance to collide with an incoming vessel, one that's has the best sensor suite as well as some of the most powerful propulsion capabilities.

Am I missing something here???

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The collision occurred while they were transiting the anchorage outside the canal. There was a ton of traffic.

Check out my man Sal's overview of the situation: https://youtu.be/OqRe-ouavjw

[-] Tedesche@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Something about this just doesn’t make sense. Aircraft carriers aren’t lone ships out on the seas. They’re surrounded by a small fleet of destroyers and frigates meant to protect them. How did this ship manage to slink past said fleet and collide with the carrier?

[-] Fredthefishlord 1 points 1 week ago

Well that one's clear;it was by the canal

[-] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago

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[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

www.thecentersquare.com U.S. aircraft carrier collides with merchant ship in Mediterranean Sea Sarah Roderick-Fitch | The Center Square 2 - 3 minutes

(The Center Square) – The USS Harry Truman collided with a merchant ship in the Mediterranean Sea near Port Said, Egypt, on Wednesday evening.

No injuries or ship flooding have been reported by Navy officials.

The U.S. Sixth Fleet Public Affairs released a statement confirming the collision involved the merchant vessel Besiktas-M.

According to the Sixth Fleet's statement, “The collision did not endanger the Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) as there are no reports of flooding or injuries. The propulsion plants are unaffected and in a safe and stable condition. The incident is under investigation.”

Port Said is located at the entrance to the Suez Canal on the Mediterranean. Navy officials have not disclosed if the 100,000-ton nuclear-powered carrier was transiting the canal at the time of the collision, which occurred at around 11:45 p.m. local time.

The Truman, homeported in Norfolk, Va., deployed in September 2024 and, according to the ship’s social media, most recently held a port visit in Greece. The ship has a crew of approximately 5,000 sailors and Marines.

In the summer of 2017, the Navy experienced two ship collisions between two merchant ships, both occurring in the Seventh Fleet's area of responsibility.

In June 2017, the USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62), a destroyer, collided with the ACX Crystal, a Philippine-flagged container ship just over 60 miles southwest of Yokosuka, Japan, home of the U.S. Navy’s Seventh Fleet. The collision resulted in the deaths of seven sailors. Several factors were blamed for the collision, including lack of communication and crew fatigue.

In August 2017, the USS John S. McCain (DDG 56), a destroyer, collided with the Alnic MC, a Liberian-flagged tanker, off the coast of Singapore. The collision resulted in the deaths of 10 sailors. The primary cause for that collision was blamed on “insufficient training, inadequate bridge operating procedures,” and lack of operational oversight, according to the National Transportation Safety Board.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Pete Hegseth was allowed to drive. And he was shitfaced.

[-] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Waiting for them to blame it on DEI

[-] glitch1985@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

There is a picture in this thread. The merchant ship was indeed black.

[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

What the hell is a US aircraft carrier doing in Egypt?

[-] criitz@reddthat.com 17 points 1 week ago

We have military presence everywhere in the world

[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Thats_the_joke.gif

Seriously tho. We have no legitimate business there or anywhere outside of territorial US waters.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

With Yemeni and Somali attacks on merchant vessels this is actually one place in the world where a military presence is actually beneficial to pretty much everyone. You'd be amazed to see how many otherwise adversarial nations have bases in Djibouti and cooperate in anti-piracy manuvers.

Especially with Trump in charge, it's arguable that the US shouldn't be a part of that but we absolutely need someone's military presence there.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It's almost like that's a very dangerous area of the world where US citizens and businesses are forced to operate and having a US military presence keeps them safer, along with nearly every other nation with international commerce.

[-] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

If US citizens and US businesses choose to operate there, they should be footing the entire bill for their own private protection services. Just say "no" to Socialist military spending.

[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I adore socialist spending. Just on real shit that matters like housing and food and medicine. Not threatening brown countries on the other side of the planet because they don't bend the knee to The Empire.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, let's just grind the entire worldwide economy to a halt. Smart idea, genius. You do realize, don't you, that more than one country ALSO does international trade in the waters between Europe and Asia, right? The US has the most to lose, so they foot the bill. But the rest of the world benefits from the US military presence in pirate-filled waters.

Also, US citizens and US businesses pay taxes (well, some of the do), which pays for the US military... so in reality they ARE footing the bill for their own protection services. If you want them to pay 100% of the bill, then every single thing you buy in every single country will suddenly triple in price. I'm sure you'd love that. Jesus, you're as good at managing the economy as Trump.

[-] remon@ani.social 3 points 1 week ago

It's one of the most, if not the most, important shipping route in the world. Also the quickest way to get from anywhere in the North Atlantic to the Arabien sea/Indian Ocean.

So that's probably the one place outside US territorial waters where they have the most business. It's literally a bottleneck for the world economy.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

If that was a joke, it sucked.

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Port Said is where the Suez Canal entrance is. There’s tons of ships there in close proximity, waiting to transit the canal.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Uhh, whatever it wants.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Probably heading to or from the Red Sea via the Suez Canal

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Putting taxpayer dollars to work, cousin!

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Did the front fall off?

[-] Idontevenknowanymore@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

No. We don't do that here.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry, I came here for an argument

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Terribly sorry, arguments are over in room 3B.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Did Trump fire the navigator?

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

After what I've seen at sea, I'm gonna guess that's the merchant vessel's fault.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

Seventh fleet headquarters to the Sixth fleet when they aren't involved in a collision.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I guess this will be the excuse for them to start shooting down, sinking and attacking any ship that comes near their aircraft carriers now, regardless if who is or isn't in the right.

To the US Navy, the merchant ship didn't collide with an aircraft carrier ... the merchant could have been trying to attack and destroy the aircraft carrier.

For those interested ..... have a look at https://www.marinetraffic.com/

Port Said is literally a beehive of ships

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