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Support for Germany’s far-right AfD is surging among young men, driven by concerns over immigration, conservative values, and distrust of mainstream politics.

A Pew study found 26% of German men view AfD positively, compared to 11% of women.

Social media, particularly TikTok, has helped spread its message. Some young supporters reject accusations of extremism, while others openly embrace far-right views.

Analysts warn that if mainstream parties ease their opposition to the AfD, it could become Germany’s dominant right-wing party.

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[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I gotta say, watching them destroy the world is not making me a fan of young men.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Fucking Hans, you gullible bitch, showing your face around here again... You think you're gonna be a superman?

https://youtu.be/vGAqYNFQdZ4

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

It seems that every 80 years or so humanity has to learn a hard lesson over and over again.

[-] msage@programming.dev 17 points 4 hours ago

Can we please talk about how there is no active real left wing in any country?

Like sure the right wins when there is no real opposition.

I keep feeling like I've failed miserably as a person for not doing more. And I have no idea what should I be doing.

[-] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

There is nothing you can/could do. The endless war against intelligence and focus on just believing what some screaming asshole says on talk radio, combined with the dawn of the internet being weaponized to spread that brain rot, and here you go. Maybe if you can go back in time and murder Ronald Reagan before capitalism gets so out of hand that they can buy the government ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] msage@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

What about doing my own content? Podcasts, screaming asshole youtubes and whatnot? I can't speak very well, much less write, but I can... do something

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

This is true. Last time TikTok got popular in Germany was in 1930 and we all know how that ended.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

FUD: increase fear, uncertainty, and doubt by spreading misinformation propaganda and undermining independent, fact based journalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

It's the same tactic far right conservatives used against popular public progressive movements like the enlightenment, the hippies, corporate monopolies like IBM and Microsoft against open source, etc to divide the working class against themselves.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 43 points 17 hours ago

Yup. Seeing it first hand with a shorts addict relative right now. It‘s just doomscrolling all the way to the 4th Reich for many of them. It‘s sadly not surprising but all the more horrifying to see how utterly unequipped we are to deal the pace of „social“ media and how easy it is to spread far right ideology with lies and memes. I think a ban of TikTok and Xitter is inevitable at this point. They‘re too far gone.

[-] Viri4thus@feddit.org 58 points 18 hours ago

Like always, the 1% keep parasitising the wealth of a country till the inhabitants stop living in comfort. When populists capitalise on this, the answer is... Tik tok makes young men racist, not poverty and uneducation... Anything to avoid wealth re-distribution. *slow clap

Hopefully some enlightenment will come and the eyes will turn to the real responsibility for this situation, and then the guillotines.

[-] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think the point is not "this is all TikTok's fault", the point is things like TikTok makes it a lot easier to spread misinformation. People have shorter attention spans nowadays, and they prefer to spend their time consuming short form content such as the kind found on TikTok. The problem with this is that it takes a lot more effort to correct wrong information and educate people than it takes to spread misinformation. For example, it's much easier to clip something a politician says out of context and to make a 5 or 10 second clip for people to watch, than to convince people to watch a 5 minute interview or read an article for context.

And even though I don't use TikTok, I still kind of insert my self in here; I don't have the mental fortitude or patience to read every single article I come across, so I often read diagonally, check the summary, or (more rarely) just stick with the title.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 hours ago

Well, this being the BBC their take is NEVER (ever, ever) going to be that the empoverishment due to a social, political and economic structure than massively benefits the Owner class whilst empoverishing the rest and uses propaganda to distract the masses and to make sure any redistributive ideologies are un- or at least under-reported, is the one to blame for those most hit amongst the "plebes" are going to rebel and latch one to the only "non"-mainstream ideologies that do get reported about - the Far Right.

This is because in their own country and, to some level internationally, the BBC's function is to be a cog in exactly that propaganda machine.

The last thing you'll ever going to see is the news media who portrays "two sides coverage" (I.e. all subjects getting reduced to a dispute between the two main parties) as "fair" "journalism" covering any subject as a problem of how mainstream politics benefits the well-entrenced Owner class, especially the news media from a country were the Owner class is mainly made up of the same families as a century ago. At best, they'll cover the near-mainstream "blame outsiders" movements (such as the Far Right), never those pointing out how much of the blame rest on well off local elites

[-] TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago

Germany isn't doing that bad though. This is happening all over, regardless of how comfortable the country's white boys are. Of course, not capitalists will stop it, because they hope to profit from the divide.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I'm not aware of a country that's swinging right where living standards are rising. They're all either stalled out or falling in spite of narrative and expectation. Sure, Germany isn't bad compared to some others, but plenty of Germans recognize that the standard of living they're used to is starting to diminish. Unfortunately, instead of recognizing the real causes here, that angst is being channeled into "yes, but what if we tried out fascism again?"

The thing that's wild to me as a USian is that we've had the fruits of reactionary conservatism (starting on the path with Reaganism) on full display since the oughts, and other countries seem to see our shambling fucking mess and go "well, yes, but the rich people told us it'll be different for us." No, it fucking won't.

[-] ricdeh@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

Many families in Germany face a precarious future, and your dismissal of the concerns of young people will definitely not make them more reasonable when it comes to the election. There are enormous financial challenges for a lot of Germans, and unlike in the U.S., White people are just as much affected as all the others.

[-] TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

These challenges were also there before social media, never said Germany is doing great either. Social media definitely played a part in changing consciousness, but in stead of class consciousness, we got right wing grifting, which happens to be the most profitable for social media companies.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 45 points 18 hours ago

Social media, particularly TikTok, has helped spread its message.

Lies are easier to spread than the truth, and often more easily accepted too. Social media is fucked because of the near total lack of moderation - or desire to enact such.

After all, the ultra-wealthy often have little objection to being the useful pets of fascists, so long as they get to keep slightly more of their money*.

*until the fascists decide they want it even more than the scawwy LIBERALS did

[-] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

near total lack of moderation

Disagree. Social media is built to favor creating and then selling huge name influencers to your users, and because you cannot become a large influencer/streamer/w/e without essentially being uncritical about the world, or being critical in a way that swings completely to 1 side of the aisle. This is in itself a form of moderation that only ever allows some critical voices to succeed, but only if their critique furthers the divide among the working class.

[-] halfpipe@sopuli.xyz 59 points 19 hours ago

This mirrors what’s happening with men of the same age in the US.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 38 points 18 hours ago

Not surprising, given the same people are pushing the same rhetoric all over the world.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 27 minutes ago

Not all over though. China isn't electing Sieg Heil, and neither is the Sahel

[-] halfpipe@sopuli.xyz 7 points 17 hours ago

Welcome to web 4.0, where the vocal minority monopolizes all of our feeds

[-] OppaGundamStyle@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 19 hours ago
[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 47 points 18 hours ago

Because they’re Nazis.

But why do people become Nazis?

People are not born Nazis.

Understanding why people become Nazis helps prevent people from becoming Nazis, even if you think there's no hope for the fucks who've already dived into the ideology.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

People become Nazis when they feel lost, powerless, and their lives meaningless. They reach for it in a desperate attempt to be part of something important, powerful, and meaningful.

But it’s empty and nihilistic, so it doesn’t work out.

We as a society haven’t figured out how to deal with modernity. All our problems are of our own making. We’ve destroyed religion (the original provider of meaning and belonging) and left a void in its place. That’s all the desire for Nazism is: a desire to fill that void (and a scapegoat for why it exists in the first place).

Of course you and I can see that the scapegoat is wrong and totally absurd. But that’s not important to them. There’s no easier way to feel powerful than to topple a hated enemy.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

I think it’s largely about a lack of opportunity for, especially but not exclusively, blue collar workers^1^ and a perceived loss of status. There seems to be a lot of young men across the West and elsewhere who are struggling to build a career in the modern economy and being rejected by women (in part due to their anger) when, to them, it feels like just a generation or two ago, they would have been handed a middle class life and been the breadwinner for a family already.

Nevermind that a generation or two ago, that status came at the expense of others. To them, it feels like lost status. So, they’re easily manipulated by the far right saying, “It’s not you. It’s [insert scapegoat: women, immigrants, whatever]. We’ll give you a sense of purpose.”

^1^ I only say blue collar because of the shift in rich countries from manufacturing to services, whether high paid or low paid. But whole white collar professions have disappeared just due to computers.

[-] krebssteven@infosec.pub 8 points 17 hours ago

Fascism is literally an ideology driven by a spiteful vibe. Parade your disdain for the identity of somebody else long enough, they will embrace the worst aspects to oppose you and mythesize these aspects into virtues.

[-] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

So it's our disdain of them that causes them to be disdainful?

[-] krebssteven@infosec.pub 2 points 11 hours ago

It is a lack of understanding and communication, most certainly. That goes both ways of course.

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