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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

No coincidences, trump will always bring disease and ruin. You keep welcoming the fox back into the henhouse, America.

[-] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 22 hours ago

Between this and Gaza (and everything else), I really honestly don't think we have seen a person in all of human history who checks more boxes of being the antichrist.

Like fuck, he literally brings pestilence and disease with him.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

wouldn't doubt if this is musk and thiel, sowing chaos.

also wouldn't doubt if covid was them too.

just like how thiel dry runned a bank collapse with silcon valley bank. or musk dry runned doge with Twitter.

they dry runned h5n1 with cov19.

[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 day ago

If we could get enough people to stop eating animal products at the same time, it would simultaneously lower their personal risks of infection, the risks of another pandemic, and it could hit the animal ag industries hard - who are some of the largest funders of the gop.

[-] Xed@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

I’ve been doing my part of drinking stuff with oat milk and eating a plant based diet

[-] Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org 7 points 16 hours ago

In the last pandemic, we couldn't get people to wear a mask sometimes without them losing their shit.

[-] Tofu_Ninja@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago

I love the enthusiasm but the movement would immediately be labelled as woke and a lot of people would start eating more animals just to “own the libs”

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Nah, we just need to lean into their toxic male fragility. Remind them it's super gay to have some animal's meat in their mouth. So juicy it slides right down your throat. Yeah, you enjoy that beef on your tongue, you slut?

If we really pushed that message, Joe Rogan would be vegan within a week.

[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

The people who would do that would be putting themselves at greater risk when the next pandemic does break out. That's their problem - especially if they've been informed on everything they can do to help and protect themselves.

[-] ploot 10 points 1 day ago

That’s their problem

Unfortunately, with how pandemics work, it would be everyone's problem.

[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

It already is, and they're already speedrunning us into the next one. All the more reason to focus on protecting who we can, and who is willing to not be an active harm.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

The constant edging with bird flu mania is going to make people not pay attention when it actually pops off.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is it popping off. We've already lost a huge portion of chickens in the US. We're seeing dozens of cases in humans. And it's in cows too. The only reason it doesn't feel like a big deal is because we as a nation aren't doing anything about it yet, only individual farms are. Same way COVID went from "is this a big deal?" to "oh fuck shut everything down".

[-] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

The big event will be someone with regular human flu getting bird flu, giving the virus opportunities to swap DNA segments. If it gets the transmissibility of our standard influenza and the lethality of bird flu, it'll be a rough six months to a year before we have vaccines for it as it rips through our population.

Especially considering flu vaccines are made with eggs, and this disease is currently thoroughly decimating our egg producing livestock.

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The lethality is 52%. If it rips through the population, we're looking at total collapse well before the vaccine is available.

[-] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 42 minutes ago

Highly dependent on the degree to which it's contagious. But you're right, especially considering we're looking at one of the worst flu seasons in more than a decade currently. If all flu cases were 50% lethal that'd be 10-15 million deaths.

[-] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

The problem is that the CDC isn't getting to say anything right now, so we can assume that the moment they get to talk about it, the stupidest people you know are going to go "woah this was really sudden! They clearly made it in a lab!"

[-] teft@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

That's actually a really good counter point that I hadn't thought of.

[-] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Thank you, I've spent a lot of time giving myself brain damage so I can understand the perspective of conservatives.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Huff a lot of glue or paint, maybe ram a crayon or two in your brain. Then you might get close to understanding.

[-] Catma@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

If we just stop testing it will go away like magic. Did you learn nothing from Covid?

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

When would you like to be alarmed? For me it was when it jumped to mammals.

[-] seven_phone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The little boy who called bird flu, but I think the call here is that it is difficult to feel safe behind the idea that it does not cross the species barrier when you have bird flu in cows.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately people will just think "Hey I've seen this bird flu in the news and it didn't seem bad." Then they ignore all virologist recommendations and we have a second pandemic.

[-] seven_phone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Too little information is as bad as too much, it is a difficult balance. The problem with information dissemination last time was not oversaturation but that people latched onto ridiculous conspiracy narratives and that derives from lack of basic education not too much news.

[-] fadingembers 2 points 1 day ago

And this time there will be zero investment in stopping it spreading when it starts killing people

[-] dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

There is also a reputed new cat-to/from-human transmission vector for H5N1, which was briefly noted in a CDC report last week before being redacted: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/health/cdc-bird-flu-cats-people.html . NYT article may be paywalled, but details can be found in other media sources as well.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago

If it escapes under Trump's leadership can we call it the trump virus? Please?

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 26 points 1 day ago
[-] Palerider@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago

Bird flu boogaloo

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Morbus Maga.

[-] singletona@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Corona 2 electric boogaloo here we come!

[-] ploot 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This would be much worse than COVID. Bird flu is far more deadly.

[-] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

in the beginning yes, but as the virus mutates, the variant that spreads quicker will also be less deadly. like with covid too. not that it isn't dangerous now, but it was far deadlier in the early stages.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

in a country that could start acting against this virus right now with RNA vaccine research has probably closed down all those facilities

[-] SolidShake@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

The mask thing is going to be so funny again..... I guess .. ughhhhhhhhhhhh. Subscribe to the WHO if you haven't already

I'd be more than willing to build special warehouses for the unvaccinated manned by doctors and midwives with tons of knowledge about holistic medicine and essential oils, get them out of real hospitals

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