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submitted 2 days ago by FundMECFSResearch to c/politics@lemmy.world

Fucking Hell. Like the Nazis burning their Records.

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

BuT hEr EmAiLS

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

Slack is extremely insecure. I can't believe they were using it to begin with

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Genuine question: how is it insecure? If SSO is configured, is that still the case?

Is GovSlack any better? https://slack.com/blog/news/govslack-secure-compliant-government-work

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Its not encrypted end to end.

[-] DerArzt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Do...do we tell them about the competence of individuals in fascist regimes?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 236 points 2 days ago

JFC...

"Hold on guys, we need to hold up on doing our Totally Legit and Properly Legal thing until we can get on a comms system that is properly hidden from all investigation..."

MAGA: YEAH! THE GOOD GUYS WON!

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago

Their conception of morality is exactly backwards.

They first consider if the person aligns with their in-group. If so, then whatever they do (so long as it doesn't directly have a negative impact on themselves) is by nature good.

Obversely, if a person is a member of a group that is not aligned with their tribe then any action taken is inherently wicked and detrimental to society.

They don't judge morality by the action, they judge it by the actor.

[-] tiefling 40 points 2 days ago

That's literally how Nazis operate

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, it's common to all flavors of reactionary ideology.

Which is why it's so rich for conservatives to pretend to hate "identity politics." It's literally all they have.

[-] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Swamp status: Drained™

Drain the Swamp™ is a trademark of Trump LLC and does not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of Trump or president Musk

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They drained it, then dredged the sludge off the bottom and used it to fill government positions. Again.

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[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[-] Ghosthacked@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

If they get the clueigi. One dude stopped the 1% in their tracks for a few days.

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 123 points 2 days ago

If Elon Musk is a government official it means you can sue him personally if you got banned from Twitter for violating your first ammendment rights to free speech.

Same with Trump and Truth social.

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 days ago

That's cute. You think the constitution still matters.

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

I apologize. He blocked my business from posting.

What amendment? We have a constitution?

[-] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

First amendment has failed time to work down the list and find any constitutional checks and balances that could help.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Well I'm standing firm on not quartering any damn soldiers...

[-] subignition@fedia.io 142 points 2 days ago

we shouldn't have records systems not subject to FOIA

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 100 points 2 days ago

We shouldn't have a majority of voters in the U.S choosing a Nazi, but here we are.

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago

Plurality* the majority of registered voters did not vote, voted for harris, or voted 3rd party.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Not voting and voting 3rd party is support for Donald, but whatever makes you sleep better at night

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

What a wierd world, where someone makeing choice C or D means they really support A, Im glad you can read about 1/3rd of Americans minds, must be quite noisy

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Yes, choosing not to vote for example is indirectly making a choice. Weird I know, again, whatever helps americans sleep at night.

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[-] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago

Those enabling a nazi, are by association also nazis. People need to stop referring to this administration as separate. They are also pushing the agenda, so they are also nazis.

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[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago

How exactly is there such a thing as a records system not subject to FOIA?

[-] Uli@sopuli.xyz 47 points 2 days ago

The article says that the administration seems to be claiming the executive order where they changed the name of United States Digital Service to United States DOGE Service allows them to make the sweeping changes they are making. This is of course ludicrously beyond the pale when it comes to data security violations involved in taking control of data managed by other agencies and getting involved in their staffing. It's a smokescreen for autocracy.

The claim in this particular instance is that they are saying the executive order redefined the reporting structure of the department. Where previously they reported to the Office of Management and Budget, where everything is subject to FOIA requests in the short term, they claim their USDS reports to the White House Chief of Staff and therefore is shielded from FOIA during the current administration. We can theoretically get the data later (I'm sure they'll be very responsible with chain of custody on such important data 🙄) but it will be 4 years later, when no one cares because we're in the trenches dealing with the long term consequences of what's happening right now. So, it is subject to FOIA, yes. But they're making up stories and betting the courts won't dare to challenge them.

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

But they're making up stories and betting the courts won't dare to challenge them.

No, it's worse than that. They know the Supreme Court will rule on their side no matter how ludicrous the reasoning is. See: the Dobbs decision.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

The fact that they are moving so quickly tells you they don't think what they are doing is legal.

[-] Reasonable_Guy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Pen, paper, a trash can, and a lighter

[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Even paper records are supposed to be saved.

[-] Catoblepas 14 points 2 days ago

Am I nuts or during his first term wasn’t there a story about Trump literally eating a piece of paper after he read it??

[-] runner_g 3 points 1 day ago

You are correct. This happened and was photographed.

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[-] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

I was thinking this earlier: can't we just bombard DOGE/executive branch with FOIA requests?

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sounds like an excellent idea

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

And when they ignore them?

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
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[-] regrub@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe his yes-men will start using Discord instead lol.

Better question: why aren't they using X, the thing that Elon is advertising as the Everything App?

[-] Broadfern@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Reminds me of the dorkwad who leaked military(?) secrets to his friends on discord a couple years ago. I think he was about their age at the time too, which tracks.

[-] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

On the Warthunder forums there are regular leaks of military secrets, like fighter jet schematics, specs and such just to win arguments. People are fucking stupid.

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[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

All goverment records are subject to FOIA by default. It's an opt-out system.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

They shouldn't be able to opt out.

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They shouldn’t be able to do most of what they’re doing, unchallenged

No need to burn records when so many have simply accepted their content being removed from visibility without reason or accountability in this day in age.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Well if the Republican packed courts get to decide it will probably stand. Even though it is total bullshit.

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