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[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

I've heard the E as both Equity and Equality. Anyone know which it's supposed to be?

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[-] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)
[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 hours ago

That explains Trump's problem with it. He can't stand the idea he'd be the bottom.

[-] anoncity@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

If only DEI was that literal. Instead, it allowed companies to discriminate based on race, but to those with left-leaning beliefs, that's okay as long as it only negatively affects white people, because they deserve it!

Somehow "diversity" doesn't seem to mean diversity of thinking, but of skin color, so you have a room full of left-wing minorities that all think the same way and have the same beliefs.

It's like when Reddit mods say that their subreddit is all about "inclusion" and "diversity", and then right below that they say Trump supporters or voters aren't allowed. The irony is crazy. I hope this platform is less of an echo-chamber but I expect downvotes because apparently you can't support open source decentralized platforms without being a leftist?

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It's like when Reddit mods say that their subreddit is all about "inclusion" and "diversity", and then right below that they say Trump supporters or voters aren't allowed.

look up the paradox of tolerance

[-] anoncity@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Right, but I would argue Trump voters by default aren't "intolerant". Over half the country voted for him, and I don't think half the country is intolerant. I think there are extremes on both the left and right that are a vocal minority, and most normal people fall on either the left or right but aren't extreme or hateful about their beliefs.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Right, but I would argue Trump voters by default aren't "intolerant".

I almost want to know how people supporting a someone who's been openly demonizing minorities and immigrants and praising white supremacist groups, aren't "intolerant by default".

[-] anoncity@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

He doesn't praise white supremacist groups... the "good people on both sides" line was taken out of context, doesn't take much effort to see the full clip with context. The issue with a lot of the left is they view Trump and his supporters as Nazis, and cannot put themselves in the perspective of a Trump voter. Y'all lack the understanding of why he won the popular vote. Why can't we discuss politics in good faith?

Trump, like most leaning libright, have no issue with "immigrants". We have an issue with "illegal immigrants". You are being intentionally obtuse and using bad faith when you phrase things this way. If you don't enforce border laws, then there is no border. Arresting someone for breaking the law isn't evil, nor is it intolerant. Do you have an issue with Japan's immigration system? It's way more strict and "intolerant" than America's.

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 12 points 16 hours ago
[-] anoncity@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

I'm just giving my opinion from my own observations. Was every place that practiced DEI doing so in bad faith? I doubt it. But many were.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 16 hours ago

[citation needed]

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 9 points 16 hours ago

Two kinds of people: the heterosexual white man and the diversity hire

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Christian heterosexual white man. Can't have any of those minority religions, or worse atheists, sneaking in.

I oppose affirmative action. Change my mind (if you disagree and want to)

[-] sus@programming.dev 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I don't see affirmative action as fundamentally bad. Applied correctly and not too heavy-handedly, the privileged will still have equal opportunity to enroll or get the job, per amount of effort they put in, etc. And even if it is a bit too strong, their privilege will most likely make up for it in other ways.

In practice though, it's highly susceptible to backfire effects and is usually on the wrong side of "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". You can't expect someone who grew up malnourished, undereducated and generally mistreated by society to suddenly bounce back and become a "model citizen" when they get a good job or scholarship, statistically speaking.

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[-] bluelander@lemmy.ml 6 points 15 hours ago

This 1000%. Stop separating your words from their meanings.

Say what you mean and mean what you say.

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 10 points 17 hours ago

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
- Not Voltaire

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 16 hours ago

They don't like any of them, because those are the concepts that defeated the Nazis.

They were defeated by a group of countries (diversity), which allowed anyone to join (inclusivity) and didn't think they were better than others (equity).

[-] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago

Haha, nice one.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I seem to recall Trump wanting to end the divisiveness of inclusiveness and somehow people just accepted him saying that

[-] WandowsVista@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

oh snap! I know this doesn't really contribute to the conversation but.. I know Jive! he's a real good dude. went to school with my older brothers. love to see him still spreading positivity. big ups, daft purk!

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

Counterpoint: the phrase first proposed by Serj Tankian, an armenian biblical scholar, reading 'When Angels deserve to DEI', implies that even the God's very servants strive to have DEI programs used in their hiring and career proposals.

Why are you snorting blood my friend, did I say something wrong?

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

I mostly like DEI. But I'm concerned that it is running cover for corporations. DEI is not about expanding opportunities to people evenly. DEI is about expanding opportunities to people that make the company more money. DEI alone is not enough for a fair and equitable society.

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

It isn't, but it sure is an improvement

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I hate inclusive.

I'll never be in the MAGA(neo-Nazis) group.

[-] anus@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

This is a stupid take, equally as stupid as saying "I'm not pro BLM because I believe that all lives matter" (for the same reason)

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

They would unironically say those out loud if they didn’t think people would judge them, maybe not in so many words though.

If you’re lucky enough to grow up in a heavily conservative family that has a 4th of July weeklong party with all of the extended family parking their RVs and tents on the lawn, then you would also know this as a fact

[-] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I hate it empowering the face eating of itself: Or once again fascists benefiting from DEI to.....abolish DEI.

Can we do anything with:

Like we report Let's Encrypt+ISRG for being DEI!! Would their certs expire then? 😣

Are  their Re-captchas having a cert issue?

https://letsencrypt.org/

press@letsencrypt.org

548 Market St, PMB 77519, San Francisco, CA 94104-5401, USA Send all mail or inquiries to: PO Box 18666, Minneapolis, MN 55418-0666, USA

https://www.abetterinternet.org/

press@abetterinternet.org

548 Market St, PMB 77519, San Francisco, California 94104-5401 Send all mail or inquiries to: PO Box 18666, Minneapolis, MN 55418-0666, USA

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