Wellllll technically those who voted against Kamala to stop israeli genocide got what they wanted. Israel no longer has to genocide Palestinians.
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But kamala was pro israel!!!
Americans have no choice but bring Trump to justice STAT.
Amazing. I would be thrilled if I was living in that rumble with jihadi overlords. Lets be honest if the gazans were given free pass (for example) to come to the west, gaza would be deserted. Even neighbouring countries are far better to live in. This is an opportunity of a life time if it actually comes to fruition. Trump is really thinking outside of the box to bring an end to this artificial conflict for good.
Gaza is an open air prison!
Okay, you can leave to build a new life somewhere else.
Nooooooo, that’s genocide!
It's right to be angry. I don't have an answer. I think few people realize that most genocides are actually successful and forgotten.
In 1940, the Nazis' plan was to relocate all Jews to Madagascar.
Just 2 years later, they started exterminating them systematically.
Population transfers aren’t unheard of. In Greece/Turkey, Italians from eastern Adriatic, German from Prussia and Silesia, Pakistan/India millions of people moved.
This Holocaust comparison is completely dishonest and betrays any knowledge of how it happened. Used in this context, it’s Holocaust relativism at best and likely antisemitic.
Just so you know: In the India/Pakistan relocation, millions died.
Americans making this about Trump vs Kamala is getting really really annoying. I mean, we get it, you are pissed off at each other. We've read the same arguments dozens of times already, and at this point it is getting extremely tired. It sucks the oxygen out of every conversation. Is this what the discourse is going to be around Palestine and Israel the next four years?
The amount of hatred against phantom leftists that on the one hand lost the Dems the vote and on the other were too weak to have their demands considered is crazy.
No, these people didn't lose you the vote. They don't even exist in this ambivalent form. It was everyday citizens that heard Democrats push the same racist border talking points Trump spewed last election and went "Hm, if even the Dems say this is a problem, I'll vote the party that talked about how evil Migrants were for decades, the GOP". It's people tired of increasingly struggling to make ends meet and the Dems saying everything will stay the same, while Trump promised them change. We know that he just means destroying the last remnants of social security nets for poor people and everything that stands in the way for oligarchs making kaijulllian dollars. But people are stupid and desperate. Why can't the Democratic party be held to a higher standard than whatever this is?
The Dems are constantly held to a vastly higher standard. This was true when trump first came to power too.
Hillary: competent politician, could have smiled more maybe, no big changes.
Trump: grab em by the pussy, pay hush money to porn stars, ramble incoherently.
Public: what about her emails?
No, they aren't. Expecting the Dems to get the vote by not being the fascists is a low standard. They have to present more than that. They didn't, in fact, and now the party blames leftists for not voting hard enough when it's their failure.
Jesus, when Luigi Mangione allegedly killed that healthcare CEO, it showed how the entire country liked seeing that, and the Democratic party has no idea what kind of campaign they could maybe run? I'm not saying they should run on a billionaire purge platform, but c'mon, maybe use your one billion dollar campaign funds for sending a message for you and not against the other one. Instead we got a 25k grant for a house purchase if you jump through three hoops. Wow, inspiring stuff.
And Hillary Clinton being characterized as making "no big changes" tells the whole story here. Her opponent went on a "drain the swamp", "we're going to make America great again" campaign and building up a hispanic and muslim scape goat. Everyone who is educated knew these were lies, but people were bad off, even then, and needed change. To be a hawkish candidate in a war exhausted society who runs on nothing but trying to achieve the first female presidential office is a weak attempt at saving America from Trump.
Hilary is responsible for Trump. she pushed him in the primary.
Accelerationism has made things worse for everyone. Now we have a US president who has declared his intention to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip of Palestinians. If you want things to get better then you have to act in a way that is useful to that end. That means voting for parties that are to the left of fascists and that have a chance of winning. In the US, that's the Democrats.
This is not a particularly helpful message for the time being since the election is past and won't be for a while at best.
This is more a wish on what could have been and leaves little room for current discourse when this is a dead end topic.
I don't think that legitimate elections are happening in 4 years. They're gutting everything and installing their flunkies just as they said they would in p2025.
The last election is where democracy died.
Single-issue voters, when EVERYTHING was at stake, deserve all the hate they get, but are too stupid to understand. The worst kind of trumpers, ones that don't think they are.
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