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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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[-] clgoh@lemmy.ca 125 points 3 months ago

I'm sure the Palestinians are grateful the Democrats didn't win.

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 87 points 3 months ago

But they didn't promise to stop it, so voting for fascism was the only alternative!

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

Have more alternatives in the voting booth by passing state level electoral reform! Then people could vote for who they want and still have their vote count against the Republicans.

Who could possibly say no to having more then one chance to beat the Republicans?

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago

Yeah, fair voting is over in the US. You can't remove fascism at the voting booth.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What would a Democratic win have changed here? Have you already forgotten then 15 previous months where Democrats were sending Israel cash, jets, 2,000lb bombs, arms, and every other tool they needed to continue their genocide?

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

NO FACTS ALLOWED! ONLY HATE FOR THIRD PARTIES!

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 16 points 3 months ago

I'm half convinced that these are just bots here to drum up infighting as any post mentioning Israel seems to get flooded with these comments, and almost none of the commenters ever respond to replies.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh, they respond. Turns into days long flame war if you don't just stop responding yourself. Still bots afaict though, either that or extremely confident idiots.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Do you think the "days long flame war" might not happen if you didn't do things like call people idiots?

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

^ This guy IMMEDIATELY starts a flame war with someone else under the same comment. Holy fuck man.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You mean a "flame war" where I never insulted anyone?

Sounds like a pretty one-sided war.

Interesting, also, that you are defending the person who just out-and-out lied about me calling them and other people idiots.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I didn't insult you either. It seems like you both really want me to, but I have no interest in doing so.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 months ago

What evidence do you have that Kamala would have opposed this idea as president? Has she released any recent statement condemning the idea? It's actually a lot easier for her to do so now than it would have been with her as president. She's a private citizen now; she need not fear AIPAC campaign dollars. She need not fear offending Biden. She's not lifting a finger to condemn the idea now, when she faces zero downside in doing so. What makes you think she would have opposed it as president?

Sure, Trump is a lot more vocal in his support of ethnic cleansing than Kamala would have been. But I think Kamala would have simply looked the other way and refused to intervene if Israel attempted it. I see zero indication in her actual behavior that she would have intervened if she was currently president.

[-] yuknowhokat@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago

If the end result is the same I would certainly rather have non-fascist fucks in office

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

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[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 months ago

Biden literally sanctioned them just for settling, Trump reversed it.

Of course this wouldn't have happened under Kamala. It may have dragged on for a bit, but they delayed the ceasefire until Trump got in, if he lost - they were down bad in an increasingly worsening PR situation and were somewhat tied to that. Now they don't care, look at them. Probably launch gaza baby NFTs and pocket the profits too just for kicks.

Straight into the west bank as Adelson paid $100m for the privlege, and now celebrating an ethnic clensing. There won't be a palestine at the end of this term.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How many people did Biden sanction? List the names.

Do you understand why we keep saying everything Biden "did to help" was symbolic and completely worthless? That he did those things while vetoing ceasefires at the UN and sending tens of billions of dollars in bombs for them to commit mass murder with? That this is the behavior of an actual psychopath who's complicit in genocide?

The sooner you all stop running from reality, the sooner we can start fixing this.

[-] pedro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago

You seem not to realise the way to "fixing this' is through a political process and you fuckers are locked in for 4 years of a dude who doesn't know what shame it's.

[-] lurklurk@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

4 years

that's very optimistic

[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Fuck up you dishonest fascist enabling piece of shit. Go look it up yourself. You have picked your side, we’ll fix it without you maniacs eventually.

[-] prole 9 points 3 months ago

Don't waste your breath, these people don't even know what the West Bank is

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Are you seriously arguing that we didn't know what Kamala would do on this so Trump, who was very clear about it, was a better alternative?

[-] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Frankly I doubt they give a fuck, this was the outcome for them either way.

[-] FantasticDonkey@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago

I’m sorry to disappoint you but we are unhappy with both parties. Biden is an absolute devil for allowing this genocide to unfold and providing both weapons and rhetorical and political support. Trump is an absolute devil too, the difference is that he’s absolutely unhinged and says the quiet part out loud.

I feel sorry for the domestical issues this is causing you now and the general chaos this guy creates but for us Palestinians Democrats and Republicans aren’t much different in their support for Zionism.

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