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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org to c/fediverse_vs_disinfo@lemmy.dbzer0.com

@ashton1593@lemmy.sdf.org is spreading a disinfo campaign trying to rebrand horrible ideas as "not nazi." I don't know where else to warn people about this. We are pushing for an instance ban, but the admin at SDF tends to be slow to reach.

Edit: Look at the modlog. I beg of any instance admin that sees the ban and removal reasons alone, including a ban reason of "tranny" , I hope to hell they break your instance rules. You should instance ban this moron to keep the spread down.

Edit 2: It has been more than a day now with not even a "We will look into it." kind of reply from the admin. It may be time to look into defederation. We are effectively abandoned.

Edit for an update:

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[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 51 points 3 weeks ago

Lot of trolls floating in lately. Got that stupid catfishing message a couple days ago in my DMs.

Seems that the current president cosplaying as king has emboldened the most toxic conservatives to crawl out of the woodwork.

I remember that happened in 2017 too, so we can probably expect them to get bored and fuck off somewhere else sooner or later

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Wait, the catfish happened to a bunch of people? Thought it was just a few, I ignored it when I got it.

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Weird right?

I think the catfish was targeting active commenters based on the post a bit ago about it.

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[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago

sdf.org needs a backup admin that is reachable badly.

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've emailed, tooted, and tagged the admin on Lemmy. I am fumbling through a BBS post in my phone. I can do no more except let people know to block this Nazi and please don't think the SDF instance appreciates or tolerates this Nazi BS.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

I agree, they really do. I don't have too much hope for them otherwise. Even getting them to update their instance when it was on the broken 0.19.2 Lemmy version was like pulling teeth. They're ridiculously hard to contact. I was thankfully able to get that resolved but wow... I'm glad I didn't choose it as my primary instance.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 weeks ago
[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago

We banned him a few hours ago. In the future, please at least navigate to the major servers and check their modlogs before pinging the admins.

Admins usually notify other admins fairly quickly about stuff like this. But in this case the other admins (myself) aren't going to know if the user had already banned by one of our colleagues, so we end up having to check multiple times.

It's all good though, I appreciate your urgency.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago

Oh I see, sorry I didn't check sooner. I'll try to check the modlog next time (hopefully there isn't a next time).

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[-] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you for bringing it to our attention, already banned from Lemmy.world, will communicate with the other admins to see if more action is warranted.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago

I don't mean to backseat moderate but is a 7 day ban really the best option in this situation as opposed to a permanent one with content removal? I mean this isn't an average scenario, this is an extremist user spreading hate and disinformation, and for that they get only a 7 day ban?

[-] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

This is a temporary measure until I can discuss it futher with the other admins. I think they'll agree a perma-ban is warranted.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

Ok that's good to know. I sure hope they do.

[-] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Just a follow-up, they are now perma-banned. Thank you (:

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Glad I could help.

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[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hijacking this useful ping to say that I absolutely would not hold a grudge over defederation due to this. We can't get in touch with the admin. They are likely asleep. Please remember, though, that aside from this BS, it is just a quiet nerdy instance full of Unix lovers.

Edit: autocorrect typos

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

Me neither. If the mods don't respond to or address this issue by tomorrow I will begin advocating defederation from lemmy.sdf.org because if they aren't willing or able to moderate hate speech, then they aren't a safe instance to be on or be around.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, seems like they need a spare emergency admin or two in different time zones. Hell, every instance that doesn't require approval to create communities needs those, imo

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

Most instances with a larger userbase really need to have a 24 hour team, "mods are asleep" should never happen on a server with a large userbase. The disruptions that can cause in cases like this are unacceptable.

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

It is a bad look for a non-profit that does some genuinely cool stuff.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it definitely is. They should be way more attentive when it comes to moderation, as well as maintenance of their services. I still remember having to beg them to update from 0.19.2 to 0.19.3 because the instance was broken and not federating (couldn't even log in) it was so difficult to get them to do that. They did do it but it shouldn't have been anywhere near that hard.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

Feel free to donate and collaborate!

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Contact the admins at dubvee.org they have a system of cross instance banning and tracking down to an art form. That’s assuming you can contact them if you are not banned.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I didn't think to reach out to them since they're a smaller instance, they likely don't even see this whole thing happening. This is more an issue for the bigger admins since they're the ones who will ultimately stop the spread. So I didn't really want to bother them with something that they probably can't even see.

[-] jgrim@discuss.online 8 points 3 weeks ago

Appreciated!

[-] Spitfire@pawb.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

Appears they’ve already been dealt with.

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[-] pieguy@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 3 weeks ago

Quick correction: Domain is lemmy.sdf.org (fix missing period)

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks. I hate typing on my phone.

[-] Admin@startrek.website 18 points 3 weeks ago

Startrek.website has banned the user and blocked/purged the communities.

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago

It's a troll, and one of several I have seen over the last couple of days. There isn't much to go on now, but they could just be lost tankies or a single troll with multiple accounts that is just trying to get a rise out of people.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago

My bets are it's a single troll. Most tankies don't go straight for transphobia.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

I'm disappointed that such a user is on the same instance as I. Thanks for raising the alarm. I'm hopeful the folks in charge take action.

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I agree! I saw their posts and was disgusted.

[-] shadow@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 weeks ago
[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

You are welcome. I'd recommend not looking at the local feed for a while.

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago
[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yep. Can confirm. I did update the post with a screenshot of the modlog.

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

Oops I missed that! Anyway glad it's dealt with.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 3 weeks ago

Okay wow so it’s been almost 24 hours. The admin’s last post was a year ago. Has anyone had contact with them since? What are the chances this instance is just running derelict?

Hoping I am wrong! But if I’m not SDF users might want to consider to start migrating. If the admin can’t be reached at all the next step other admins are gonna take is defederation.

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

Not even a reply to anything on Mastodon or e-mails. I think I may nuke this account and all of the content in protest.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 weeks ago

definitely not what you want to see in that position of power

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

Their comments and posts seem to have been removed from the parent instance now

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 weeks ago

Nope. Still posting as of less than a minute ago. They may have earned an instance ban from your instance.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Either that, or they're blocking people that are talking about them.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Nazis GTFO.

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