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I’m planning to install Arch Linux for the first time. Any recommendations on setup, must-have applications, or best practices? Also, what’s something you wish you knew before switching to Arch?

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[-] uxellodunum@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago

Arch was the distro that got me to stop distro-hopping. It's stable, it has a rolling release, and it's mine (as in, customizable, manageable).

I guess, if there's anything I wish I'd known off the bat is that the Arch documentation is probably the best available. So much so, a LOT of it applies to Linux in general and not strictly to Arch.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Main_page

If something breaks, READ the error messages, understand each component, and check the wiki, there's a very high chance the troubleshooting section has the exact issue laid out.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can recommend using endeavourOS if you do not want to waste time

But if you want to learn, go for it! Make sure to have the arch wiki ready on a second device

And understand what chroot is, is very important 😆😌

Edit: Ah and don’t forget to install yet another yoghurt

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

If you go the EOS route, yay is already installed.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 23 hours ago

Yes, and I love it

Maybe I should have added “if going the arch route”..

[-] goulox@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago

I'm using manjaro-i3 for a pretty long time now (6-7 years) and I'm fully satisfied, I won't change any time soon. It was not very difficult at first, even though I wasn't a linux user when I moved to manjaro. I would just maybe move to sway instead of i3 which seems probably more modern now.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

ditch it and go straight to NIxOS

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

"Arch" for people who think Arch is too easy.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

lol Arch wasn't hard and neither was vanilla NixOS, in fact NixOS was easier

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 23 hours ago

Not if you have a weird app that only installs with a self-executing tarball. But for initial setup, sure.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

don't use archinstall if it's the first time, the manual installation is not that hard

[-] Drito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I installed Arch like that. When I had to do a new install, I forgot everything, then I used archinstall with Xfce option and it worked fine.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Yea, I would say either go for arch manually or go straight to endeavourOS

[-] Strawberry 6 points 1 day ago

I learned so much from just going wiki-diving at every step of the installation and post-installation

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

i don't think i went wiki diving really, i just followed what it said but it gave me a nice overview of what does what in an arch system that i could expand on later

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago

Use EndeavousOS instead because the initial install process is simpler.

[-] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Don't cheap out and use the hand holding script to ez mode the install. At least not the first time. You will learn a few things along the way.

[-] Bonje@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
  • EndeavourOS is arch based with less hassle. Its more than good enough for most people. don't get trapped by minimal install bs and other non-consequential opinionative approaches to software.
  • Select btrfs as your file system and use timeshift. If you fuck up or if your updates fuck something up. There are other ways of doing rollbacks and this is just what I became familiar with. I've used it two times in the past year, its worth it.
  • Bookmark the archwiki, 99% of the time the answer to the questions of 'how to' and 'can i' are in there
  • There are multiple DE's. Pick what works best for you before you toss that bootable USB installer. You of course can switch later down the line, but experimenting now will save you config troubleshooting later, just stick to what feels/looks best. Look around on the web to see what appeals to your workflow. There are others like Cosmic and Wayland that are not included in the arch gui installer, in which case, follow the install procedures for the DE you want and remove the old ones to avoid config overlap.
  • Have Fun. If you are not, do something that is.
[-] lambipapp@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I 2nd this wholeheartedly! Been using endeavourOS for years at this point! Before endeavourOS I was distro hoping the classics. I tried Ubuntu, fedora, popOS, Debian and way more throughout my time on linux. When I tried endeavour the first time I just stuck with it. It just worked, the updates are seamless and I just like get along with it.

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[-] brisk@aussie.zone 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Check ArchLinux.org for news before you kick off an update. It's got an RSS feed and a mailing list if that helps.

Read the Wiki, and turn to it first for any issues you have.

This one may be a special "me" problem, but if you're manually interacting with wpa_supplicant, stop and go read the Networking page in the Wiki again.

Learn how to use journalctl (at least superficially) before something goes wrong.

Generally you want to restart after an update to the kernel or graphics drivers or things start degrading strangely.

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[-] NateSwift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 2 days ago

The ArchWiki is amazing, probably don’t start by installing nothing but a window manager and adding things you need as you go

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[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Be aware that some apps will install fine from the arch repo but some others will be better installed from flatpack (e.g. inkscape) or directly as an executable (e.g. Godot).

On steam you may need to specify your video card if you run an AMD card using the DRI prime command. Some games will require -vulkan to use vulkan rather than game settings.

Note: experience may vary by compositor (xorg/wayland), desktop environment, drivers, system hardware, and your willingness to dive into details.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

The only thing I have ever installed using Flatpak on Arch is pgAdmin. Inkscape from the repos works fine for me.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago
[-] brisk@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

What was your experience with Inkscape and Godot? I have those both installed from repo.

I've never felt the need to use flatpak at all on arch.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Godot had some driver issues. Inkscape had issues with the interface fonts.

Plasma 6/wayland

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

What exactly works better on flatpak version? Until now, for any packages that were somehow different, repo vs flatpak, were working better in repo version. (Due to container thingy, because flatpak version could bot see everything and I was zoo lazy to fix it using flatseal 😆)

[-] JakeyFlex@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I’ve had Discord not be up to date in the AUR. Moved to flatpak and haven’t had that issue.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Huh, works well for me, ig updates come a little late sometimes but never unable to use it.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Seems to be program by program. Usually an issue with plasma or wayland or drivers.

[-] loo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Only update your system if you have some time on your hands afterwards, in case something breaks. Happened to me a few times before.

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[-] ndondo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 days ago

EndeavorOS if you want to have an easy time. Also be comfortable reading documentation.

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[-] _____@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The whole arch advantage (imo) is that you have a full understanding of what's in your machine and how it works.

As a beginner you won't understand and that's okay, but you should try different things (or don't and just focus on what works for you) as long as the end result is you doing: pacman -Qe and going "hmm that makes sense", and imo the undesired result is going "hmm what do these all do, why do I have 2000+ packages"

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

Do yourself a favour and install it on a virtual machine first. Screwing up an install on Arch is frighteningly easy. The Arch Wiki is your friend, use it. Also, read the installation instructions before you begin the installation, not during. If this sounds like too much of a headache (understandably so), then give EndeavourOS a whirl.

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[-] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago
  • archinstall is one of the better/best distro installs around - it just does what it says it will and is pretty intuitive
  • LUKS encryption is easy to set up in archinstall - strongly recommend encrypting your root partition if you have anything remotely sensitive on your system
  • If you do use encryption but don't like typing the unlock password every reboot, you can use tpm to unlock - yes, this is less secure than requiring the unlock password every time you reboot, but LUKS + TPM unlock is still MUCH better than an unencrypted drive just sitting there
  • sbctl is a good tool for secure boot - If you want to get more secure, locking down bios with an admin password, turning on secure boot, sbctl works really well and is pretty easy to use. I would suggest reading up to understand what it's doing before just installing/configuring/using it
  • yay is a solid AUR helper / pacman wrapper
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[-] Dima@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago

Arch is good for tinkering with to make it your own, but can sometimes require tinkering to do things other distros can do straight away, e.g. adding udev rules to use certain devices or setting up zeroconf to be able to discover printers on the network automatically

If you want to be able to roll back changes easily you could set up your root and home partitions as btrfs subvolumes and use snapper to take snapshots, which can be combined with pacman hooks to automatically take snapshots when updating/installing software and can even be set up to allow booting into the snapshots which could be useful if you break your system

[-] Veraxis@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Stick to the many guides available and you will be fine. One thing which I either missed or was glossed over in most guides is to install the Linux-firmware package. It is considered an "optional" package, but on all the machines I have ever used I have run into issues without it.

Install it in a VM. Create snapshots. When you fuck it up then revert the snapshot.

Once you're decent at figuring out what to and not to do then try to get proficient at file system snapshots so you can do the same thing more or less on bare metal.

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