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[-] razorozx@lemm.ee 63 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Anon was looking for a long term solution.

Anon found a solution.

Is taking long term.

Questions the definition of what is an addiction.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago

You come off SSRIs (with or without) tapering and get "The zaps" and tell me that's not addiction.

Source: Guess what I fucking did last year.

[-] itsAsin@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

you are describing "chemical dependence".

addiction is more than that.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

If someone smacks you over the head with a bat, is that better or worse if they strike you over the head with a bat?

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

They were saying that this person is addicted too, not that addiction isn't bad. Chemical addiction is only one form addiction can take.

[-] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

tell me that's not addiction

That’s not addiction. Addiction is just as much psychological as it is physiological, and goes way deeper than chemical dependence. Once you’re through the withdrawals of SSRI dependence you’re pretty much good, while an addict will most likely struggle for the rest of their life.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

The zaps can be fun sometimes

[-] sheepishly@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago

Sometimes I'm tempted to go off my meds just to see what that feels like

I'm not gonna do it but I like thinking about doing it

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I definitely don't suggest it. It's an interesting experience if you're unemployed and just sitting around doing nothing. But if you have responsibilities and work to do? Hoo boy does it suck ass to move around with it.

[-] fadingembers 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Getting off of long term SSRIs was a nightmare for me and left my body broken in a bunch of whole new ways

[-] stray@pawb.social 3 points 5 days ago

That's such an apt description.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune 1 points 5 days ago

Not all of them have that, I've been on about 7 SSRIs and have never had the zaps from stopping

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 51 points 5 days ago

Anon needs to take his trazodone earlier, or take less of it.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune 6 points 5 days ago

Dunno, I'm as sleepy on it or off it, so does it really matter?

Also thanks for reminding me to take my meds.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Could be Mirtazapine. But more than likely trazodone. Although I thought both of those were usually only prescribed when already on an SSRI.

Mirtazapine made me eat everything i could possibly get my hands on, never again

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah. It was the late night hunger that did it for me. Slept like the dead, but had to stop it. Lost a few pounds after at least haha.

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Trazodone does that for me

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 19 points 5 days ago

hot shower and anti-histamine. mimics the biological signals of falling asleep.

eventually the hot shower will be enough.

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

Antihistamines that cause drowsiness also lead to dementia if used regularly.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 days ago

To be clear, the link is between anticholinergics, of which some first-generation antihistamines are, while others are less potent as anticholinergics.

Best I can tell, the clinical advice is to avoid prescribing these to patients aged 65 and above.

I'd still generally prefer sleeping completely naturally, but I think comments like these might make people avoid medicine that could help them improve their sleep over time. I was massively helped by the use of Hydroxyzine when I was younger, which helped me get on a path to better sleep and overall health.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Antihistamines that reduce immune reactions?

[-] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

Yes anticholinergic means it blocks the neurotransmitter acetylcholine in the brain and peripheral nervous system. Acetylcholine is important for thinking, learning and memory. This is why medications such as Benadryl can cause side effects like feeling sleepy or confused.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago
[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 days ago

Over time it makes the quality of sleep worse, unfortunately.

[-] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 9 points 5 days ago

It does help you fall asleep, but yeah, say goodbye to dreams and REM sleep (aka sleep that actually makes you feel rested)

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

so do most of these antidepressants, with the downside that the side effects are usually worse

[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

Big true. Nothing beats natural sleep, if you can manage to get any.

[-] stray@pawb.social 2 points 5 days ago

Is that still the case if you're only microdosing?

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

be me

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[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

Just try not taking the antidepressant, see what happens...

[-] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I like melatonin and sleepy time tea.

[-] don@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

Anon: has a problem, doesn’t bother to consider what options there may be to remedy it, just goes to his docco who does the docco thing, and anon bitches like an anon about the result. Scientists have yet to figure out how anons miss the wall as frequently as they do when passing through doors.

[-] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

>Anon has a health problem

>Anon goes to the doctor to try to resolve their health problem

>This is a bad thing for some reason???

[-] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

OR, much more realistically, Anon: has a problem, tries every at home/ otc option available which all fail miserably, goes to doc who does doc things, doc things work a little too well (at least until ones body aquires the tolerance of an elephant after only five doses), Anon discovers the agonizing and frustrating experience of sleep disorders.

Source: been there, done that. So. Many. Fucking. Times.

There is rarely an easy remedy for this shit, only things that help and things that do not. A doctors only job is to help you figure out what those things are, if they are not, replace them but don't avoid them.

[-] proton_lynx@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Yep. I feel like people expect doctors to figure it out first try. That's not how it works, everyone is different.

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