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Summary

Trump signed an executive order imposing 25% tariffs on Canadian and Mexican imports—excluding Canadian energy at 10%—plus additional duties on Chinese products.

In response, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced a 25% duty on $155 billion in U.S. goods, beginning with $30 billion in tariffs Tuesday.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum indicated reciprocal tariffs, rejecting claims that Mexico tolerates criminal groups trafficking fentanyl and insisting on respect for sovereignty.

Experts warn these tit-for-tat measures could drive up costs, disrupt supply chains, and mirror the previous U.S.-China trade war, possibly harming security.

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[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

Good morning American Neighbors. Have you classified me and mine as threats to your ~~world hegemony~~ National security yet?

[-] qprimed@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago

please, just put us out of our fucking misery. PLEASE.

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

too busy keeping an eye on our own fifth column, and potential collaborators/quislings should things go "there" .

Considering Trump's reaction to retaliation against his own divine authority, is to flip the fuck out and escalate.

"HOW DARE YOU RESIST"

[-] qprimed@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

I wish you the very best. know that many, many, many of us consider you to be true friends and neighbors. please be there and sane should we manage to reverse this disaster. we will need you.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

If you're Canadian, can you please come and burn down the White House again?

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

He's trying to fire all ATCs. Ukraine has shown how easy it is to turn a drone into a firebomb.

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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Please marry me so I can get Canadian citizenship and escape this insane fascist hellhole, PLEASE

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I know this is a joke but some points that should be made. that loophole got patched a long time ago. its not that simple. Married spouses can sponsor for PR. But the PR system works off a point system, and may not necessarily be granted PR. You have to have PR for several years. (I think its as high as 7) before you can apply for citizenship.

furthermore, Americans should know, That unless you rescind your American citizenship. (which costs a lot of money, they make it prohibitavely expensive). The United States does not recognize dual citizenship. They dont care if you're the King of Sweden. if you are an american citizen, that overrides all others. and they will consider you subject to their laws, juristiction, and prosecution. (and ask you be extradited if need be)

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Its not a joke, I am 100% serious.

I am disabled and live off of SSDI.

Spent most of 2023 homeless.

Maybe I would only qualify for residency via marrying a Canadian, but if Trump cuts back SSDI, in addition to all the economic damage he's going to cause to the US economy, I will die starving, on the street.

As of right now, its still possible to recieve SSDI while living abroad.... but who knows what will happen.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Coming soon.

[-] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dunno enough to know how well it'd work but I read a comment here the other day saying Canada and Mexico shouldn't retaliate with tariffs but instead opt out of their side of UMCA and just not uphold US IP laws. They could individually or together invest heavily into forming companies that provide cheaper alternatives to whatever crap US companies pull for recurring revenue. Stuff like legally mandating that phones have a local-made app store pre-installed, subsidizing or outright investing in really well made and well maintained jailbreaks, third party repairs, and third party spare parts for stuff like John Deere products, Apple produccts, Tesla products...pretty much eat the tariffs on exports to the US, don't retaliate with own tariffs so prices locally don't go up, but hurt US profits everywhere else by becoming a provider of cheaper but still reliable (probably more reliable tbh) alternatives to anything US.

I'm kinda disappointed that's not what's happening rn

Edit: USMCA, not NAFTA

[-] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everything you described takes half a decade minimal to be put into reality. You are literally describing building a whole fricking industry. And we all know how fast you can establish industries in North America.

When a literal bully is stabbing you, you do NOT wait for half a decade to do something about that.

Instead, retaliatory tariffs are pretty much the only thing they can do instantly as a government.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

We should do both. And very targeted tarrifs, not stupid broad tarrifs

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I like both option.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe they realize Trump is the enemy, not the rest of the US. How are they retaliating for a temporary and baseless trade war based on personal spite, with something that won’t work until after he’s gone? Why do something that affects both sides over the long term, when this could easily disappear if Trump is distracted or finds a way to yell “WIN”

If this is anything like last time, Trump just wants to put his name on a new trade treaty, regardless whether anything changes, so he can brag about being a great negotiator. His followers eat that shit up

[-] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Not trying to get into an in-depth discussion (because I know nothing) but from the outside looking in, going tit for tat and hoping the next guy's better (or that Trump doesn't make himself President for life) doesn't seem like a good long term strategy. Tariffs may be necessary (convo above) but ultimately are going to hurt the people of the issuing country the most and at a time when most are struggling already.

Trump's not the US and people in the US definitely shouldn't get punished for his crap (unless they actively voted red, abstaining...sucks but I get it tbh), but he's just proved he's willing to start a trade war with friendly nations and the US has proved it's willing to hand the country over to someone like that. Twice. Trying to find better firends (in terms of trade deals and whatnot) seems like the smart move here. Every other nation having to jump through hoops any time this guy wants to earn brownie points with his supporters doesn't seem like a good foundation for a trade agreement to me.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

In reply to your edit: it's CUSMA if you want to annoy Trump :)

[-] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Love it, but CMUSA is better because alphabetical.

But also I get the feeling he'll take Mexico coming before the US personally :P

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can he also tell Google to NOT show both "names" for Gulf of Mexico in his country? This could spark a wave of international boycott of Trump's petty bullshit. Yes, it's a minor thing but could hurt Trump's ego more than the whole economy thing.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I just checked on mine, it says "Gulf of Mexico". Perhaps it depends where a user is located?

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Idk when the change is implemented but Google said it would show

  • "Gulf of America" in the US
  • "Gulf of Mexico" in Mexico
  • Both names elsewhere

Nothing has changed for Czech users yet.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

It annoys me so much. It hasn't updated yet in Canada but "Gulf of America" is just wrong for any country outside of the US. Why show me Gulf of America when that's not a recognised name for my own or any other country besides the USA.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

President of Pakistan: "Our Neighbour's Been Getting Too Much Attention," Renames "Indian Ocean" To "Asian Ocean"

/s

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It’s just wrong for USA too. There’s lots of reasons to rename things but jingoism is not a valid one

[-] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Nothing has changed for US users either. Not yet, anyway

[-] StokedforLocust@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

according to Al Jazeera it's just the USA?

Google announced on Monday that its online mapping platform, Google Maps, will change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America for users in the US.

just "Gulf of Mexico" for me here in Toronto

e: forgot link

Google announced on Monday that its online mapping platform, Google Maps, will change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America for users in the US. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/30/gulf-of-mexico-or-gulf-of-america-google-maps-and-contentious-geography

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[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

very nice: 🍊 🥭🥭🥭 🍌🍌🍌

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Correct. Fascist 47 is a terrible human.

He should no longer be permitted to breathe.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Trump: wait, they can DO that?

[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

As tariffs hurt the importing country, not the exporting country I think that it’s odd that Canada would punish their own citizens in retaliation.

They should have added a 25% export tax on energy seeing as Trump clearly didn’t want to pay more for his imported energy.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

If you heard the speech the fact that they are giving time for the full set of Tariffs mean we have a small set (booze) we are willing to cut right away. Ie. Jack Daniels is no longer on store shelves. Orange juice is no longer on store shelves.

The extra time is for Canadian companies to find alternative (non-American) suppliers. They may be more to import due to distance/time but less impact on tariffs and potentially still more cost at the end for consumers but at the same time not American goods.

The intention is to ween us off your teat.

I don't think Americans realize that long term this is not good for you. Once new trade routes come in, it's going to be hard for you to get those partnerships back on account of you showing yourselves as a horrible business partner.

Canada will hurt in the short term but we will be stronger in the long run.

The only thing I'm worried about now is a full on American invasion and I fear that's on the table.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I don’t think Americans realize that long term this is not good for you

Of course we do, or half of us do. The other half just want to bully someone and chant “USA! USA!”

So far I’m hoping there’s a pattern of “doing something spiteful that will harm ourselves, but moving onto the next thing at the first hint of resistance”. The new administration is just doing a speed run of scapegoats and might be on to the next before you can say “WTF”. I’m hoping the booze will be enough: hurt jack daniels right in maga country, until we’re back to focussing on abusing immigrants and people who speak Spanish

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

As tariffs hurt the importing country, not the exporting country

They very obviously hurt both so long as there's any demand elasticity and especially when there are alternatives sources for the products .

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

So, is Canada going to import what it gets from the US (it's only geographic neighbour) from elsewhere?

If the answer is "no, not without at least a 26% jump in cost" then the tariff is a bad response.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Would you rather us bend over and take it?

Fuck America. You asked for this. Reap what you sowed. Unlike your trifling ass back home we are unified here. You have made us stronger as a nation.

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[-] objject_not_found@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US President imposes taxes on Canadian imports that US citizens will have to pay. In response, the Canadian Prime Minister retaliates with taxes on US imports that Canadians will have to pay.

Basically, both just want to raise taxes.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Y'know, except for the part where Trudeau is saying it shouldn't be this way and free trade is beneficial to both economies... but yeah, it's both sides that are doing this for malicious self interest.

[-] dwalin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

As an European i'll be expecting a visit to Canada from our representatives in order start the negociations on a deal that bennefits both of us

Can't wait to call and gripe loudly about the massive price increases to the staffers of my idiot congressman and senators.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

excluding Canadian energy at 10%

Dammit, importing more hydro was a big part of my state’s clean energy plan.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

It's hilarious because if it were 10% tariffs across the board, the discourse would be very much the same.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Wonder who will be the first with sanctions.

[-] arunshah240@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Good response, world politics goes wild

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